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Can anyone recommend a good place to go making PCB's? I'm particularly interested in places that also offer assembly, because this makes SMD parts an option.
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Assembly can get very expensive unless you are making 1K or more pieces. At 1K pieces the setup costs start to amortize to reasonable values. If you can get to 10K pieces then you could source the parts from China too. I have had Gold Phoenix and E-Teknet quote on a job. They both had similar quotes. Since I only wanted to do 1K pieces the pricing did not work out and I did not do the project. Neil Munzinger ( sales@e-teknet.com ) at E-Teknet was very responsive to my questions and made recommendations about cost saving opportunities. Unfortunately the numbers didn't work. |
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I've used Advanced Circuits (www.4pcb.com) before (located in Colorado). They have a pretty good special I've used a lot. 4 layer boards for $66 each (qty 4+). They also have a FreeDFM service that checks your gerbers for errors. They also do assembly, but I've found that assembly costs are sometimes more expensive than the board itself. If you're doing this for a hobby, I've heard of folks using toaster ovens for SMD parts. |
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You can use http://batchpcb.com/ from Sparkfun. It's made from small quantity as prototype. They have a bot who check if your pcb is valid. But they do not the smd assembly, and it take between 20-30 days to receive your pcb. |
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Screaming circuits ( http://www.screamingcircuits.com/ ) has a proto assembly option and have a tie-up with Sunstone circuits for pcb fab. I've never used it them, so take my advice with a grain of salt! They have a simple proto service where you send them all the parts and they charge you the labor for assembly. They do SMT and thru-hole (no BGA). Expect to pay about $500 for 5 boards. |
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I usually use Sierra Proto Express for quick PCB fab and assembly if its a complicated board like 6 layer with controlled dielectric thickness, non fr-4 dielectric material, small traces, BGAs, blind/buried vias, strange milling, those kinds of things. They also do a great gob with pick and place assembly. If your building something really simple, 4 layers with standard dielectric thickness, no BGAs or ultra fine pitch SMT parts you can use almost anyone for PCB fab. just find the cheapest price. For SMT parts on small run boards, they really aren't hard to hand solder if you have a decent iron (metcal mx500 or something). Or you can get a very basic solder paste stencil made for like $30 and bake them yourself, its not hard to do even on the the kitchen stove with a decent skillet and an IR temperature probe. |
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For prototypes, APCircuits in Alberta, Canada, is outstanding. I've been using them for years with great success. They do well with production work too, but they're not quite as competitive on cost for the production stuff. The only competition for prototypes that I know of is BatchPCB, but they're slow (which might be worth it if your budget is tight). For production work, or more finished prototypes, I've had good experiences with Sierra Circuits and PCB Express. I got a tour of Sierra Circuits about 5 years ago, and it was an impressive operation. |
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For prototypes or personal projects, I just found this group buy thing the other day: http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/pcb_order
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I've used Gold Phoenix several times with good results. It is only $99 per panel, and $20 more if you want electrical testing. I have always ordered the extra testing, and since there is always a few bad PCBs on the panel, I've always gotten an extra panel. So this really keeps the per-PCB cost down. BatchPCB is a good way to get a prototype. They have Gold Phoenix do the fabrication. |
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The list of PCB manufacturers on the Open Circuits wiki has practically every PCB manufacturer I know; many of them also do assembly now. There's another list at http://chiphacker.com/questions/1893/cheap-pcb-manufacture . Have you considered one of the many companies that focus entirely on PCB assembly? |
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Are you a student? A lot of places (Including Advanced Circuits 33Each deal; not an assembler) give great discounts. More lists: |
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For UK I'd recommend Screenbond. Not as cheap as PCBCart but usually comparable to Eurocircuits on price. Unusually low tooling coists, usually £40 for DS/PTH. They can do down to 24hr turnround if you have deep pockets. |
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iTeadStudio's OpenPCB prototyping service is really good. Their rates are $10 for 10 boards of 5cm*5cm, $22 for 10cm*5cm. So they are great for a small amount of small boards. (Shipping is also usually $4-5 depending on order). The production time is about a week and shipping is also about another week. So for $14, 10- 2"x2" boards in two weeks is pretty good I'd say. They have excellent customer service too. |
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