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While reading Linux User's Journal today, I stumbled across a little blurb about NuttX RTOS. I checked out their website and was fairly impressed with it's feature set and it's ability to put it in an 8052! I find it interesting that it supports POSIX which is something I have helped worked on for one of my clients in-house RTOS. This one seems a little more feature rich than the in-house RTOS.

Has anyone else heard of NuttX and has given it a try? If so, how does it compare to other RTOS's such as FreeRTOS?

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I am just starting to play with RTOS, and When I asked here I got great advice, but I had a feeling that most users here do not know what an RTOS is. I do not mean this in a bad way, I just think there may be value asking this in other forums also to increase your chance of receiving a good answer. –  Kortuk Jun 3 '10 at 22:08
    
I have to try anyway:-) You never know who lurks here:-) –  Jay Atkinson Jun 4 '10 at 14:06
    
Yeah, I asked the lint question here also. Never hurts to hope for a bite. –  Kortuk Jun 4 '10 at 15:09
    
Starting bounty! Am interested the comparison between RTOS's. –  tyblu Jan 16 '11 at 19:28
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Why is there a vote to close on this question? RTOS's are used in electronics and robotics all of the time. –  Kellenjb Jan 16 '11 at 19:34
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There has been discussion related to this question here: link

Extracts: The Linux Journal article that is referred to is here: link

I think that the 8052 and the M68HC12 ports are especially bad choices to characterize NuttX because they both have some issues, and NuttX is now at version 5.16 with 63 releases.

I did fill out the interview in the "Publisher" tab here: link; there is a review there too: link .

Extensive NuttX documentation is available here: link .

The issues with the hcs12 and 8051 parts are as follows:

8051/80c52: This architecture is really RTOS hostile. It has a tiny hardware stack (128 bytes on the 8051, 256 on the 80c52) at a dedicated memory location (address 0). To switch tasks, you have to copy the whole stack of the task to be blocked from its dedicated address to some save location, and then copy the whole stack of the task to be started from its save location to the dedicated stack location. YECH!

And since, the stack is so tiny. It is very, very easy to overrun the stack -- especially during interrupt handling.

The NuttX 8051 port is complete and functional (at least the last time I used it). But in order to make it useful, you would probably have to copy the whole stack on each interrupt as well to keep it from overflowing. Basically, I lost interest at that point but if some one were really motivated to use the 8051, it is doable (if perhaps not well-advised).

What was good about the 8051 port is that it was a great exercise in getting NuttX into a very small memory location. The 8051 port runs in 32Kb of RAM -- that includes the RTOS, libc, compiler libraries, a substantial test program, .data/.bss, and and heap. And with a little memory to spare!

hcs12: This is a project that I work on in my spare time when I am not doing anything else. It is just not finished and not ready for prime time yet.


With regard to comparison to other RTOSs, I really don't have any good, authoratative answers because I don't use other RTOSs. But here is my naive understanding:

FreeRTOS has tons of downloads and a really tiny footprint of about 4Kb. It is the RTOS of choice for the really small MCUs. A FreeRTOS port is bundled by silicon vendors with just about every MCU. So it is the default RTOS choice.

There are dozens of competitors with FreeRTOS out there. ChiBIOS comes to mind immediately. These are all tiny schedulers of varying types.

In order to do a real comparison, one thing we need to do first is to define what we mean by an RTOS: Is it just a scheduler? Or is it an integrated set of standard OS features -- like scheduler, filesystem, device drivers, memory management, networking, etc. Most operating system, Linux for example, are full development environments, not just schedulers. NuttX is a full operating system is the same sense as Linux. Here are a couple of others:

RTEMS: I've worked with this one. It has been around forever and should be very stable. It is big; think >100kb. I think it aims a little above the MCU market.

uCOS: Never used it, but this the RTOS under several popular bootloaders, isn't it? My impression is that is it similar to RTEMS, but I don't really know what I am talking about.

How would I compare NuttX to those: Well, it is a lot smaller. The starting footprint is around 20Kb. A full featured configation is some 10-20Kb more. Another difference from these RTOSs is that NuttX is very standards oriented. You can think of NuttX as a tiny, Linux work-alike. Most code that compiles and runs on Linux will also run on NuttX (some system code like networking code or daemons might need some tweaking).

I think RTEMS is more focused on micro-processors; NuttX is more focused on micro-controllers.

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Licensing is another difference to keep in mind when selecting an open source RTOSs. Especially if you plan to use the RTOS in a commericial project. Most open source RTOSs have a modified GPL license. The license modification usually specifies that you do not have to your proprietary code that links with the GPL RTOS (but you still have to release the RTOS files with your modifications).

NuttX (and probably others) have a non-restrictive, modified BSD license. With the BSD license, you can essentially take the code and use it as if it were own with no obligations other than retaining the licensing and copyright information within the files.

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Nutt, would you like me to edit this information into your other answer, it does seem they go together. –  Kortuk Jan 19 '11 at 18:52
    
Sure, feel free. Rant about 8051 and 80c52 and hc12 also seems out of context here. –  patacongo Jan 19 '11 at 23:03
    
I was just ensuring that you realized you could edit more in. Since you knew it and did it intentionally we can just leave it here. Normally you can just edit in another section and use titles. Let me know if I can help if you change your mind. –  Kortuk Jan 20 '11 at 18:25
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