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In all the computer power supplies and other power supplies I've taken apart, I've noticed they are fully isolated from the mains. Galvanic isolation through transformers, and often optical isolation for feedback. There is usually a very visible gap in the traces between the primary and secondary sides, at least 8mm across. Why is it important that these supplies be isolated?

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Because the mains supply is very unpredictable, and can do all sorts of things outside its nominal specification, which might damage components or at least break the nominal design assumptions. A non-isolated design also has all its voltages referenced to one of the mains conductors, which might or might not have a useful/safe relationship to other potentials in your environment (like earth/ground, for example).

If the only stuff on the low-voltage side is inaccessible electronics, then non-isolated supplies are fine - they tend to much be cheaper/simpler than isolated supplies, and lots of household equipment uses them. Even things like televisions used to work like this, if you go right back to before the time when they had external video/audio connections. The antenna connection was the only external socket, and that was capacitor-isolated.

If a human being or 3rd party piece of equipment needs to interconnect with the low-voltage side of your design, then an isolated supply both gives you a clear barrier across which dangerous voltages won't pass, even in the case of component failure, and it means your circuit is now 'floating' relative to the mains. In turn, that means you can arrange for all the electronics to operate near ground potential, with all your interconnected equipment having at least roughly the same voltage reference to work from.

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And plastic switch actuators. Notice how many external switch actuators were part of the case in many TV's. No more metal buttons or knob shafts (turret tuners)! Metal escutcheons and trim were attached to the outside case not to the internal chassis! – dmoisan Jun 3 '11 at 16:45
Take apart some old TV's while you still can and you'll see what I mean. – dmoisan Jun 3 '11 at 16:46

Short answer (oooh, this is a pun, wait for it...): safety. What would the effect of a short from 240V or higher to... well, anything, be? Low voltage devices? Dead! House? On fire! Lawsuit? Pending! Isolation at least makes a direct short to wall voltage impossible and an indirect short less dangerous and less likely. For instance, if the wall voltage totally fries everything on one side of the transformer you have a non-working transformer. A non-working transformer means no coupling and no voltage on the other side, so no damage. Plus there are more protection options for the lower voltage side (less expensive protection options anyhow).

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I can think of a few:

  • Helps isolate the outputs from dangerous line-level events (lightning strikes, surges, etc.) since most transformers are step-down in commercial power supplies
  • Allows you to use the chassis of the equipment as a safety shield, by earthing it (any conduction from the mains to the chassis will instigate a fuse blow or breaker trip, rapidly disconnecting the fault)
  • Ensures that sufficient margin exists in the design to prevent arc-over from primary to secondary even under less-than-clean environments (toner dust is a particularily nasty gap-bridger)
  • Reduces the 'stiffness' of the power source - a small transformer will saturate out much more quickly than the mains, which also has the effect of driving the primary current higher and activating some sort of safety device (fuse, breaker, etc.)
  • Regulatory organizations require it in most applications: IEC 60950, CSA C22.2, etc.
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why can the chassis not be grounded when there is no isolation? is it unsafe? are you saying that an isolated transformer would allow the (floating) output to also be connected to the chassis (along with the non-conducting ground/earth pin)? if so, why? – user3125280 Jul 21 '14 at 5:26
Don't ask questions in comments - post them as new questions. – Adam Lawrence Jul 21 '14 at 10:51
"Use comments to ask for more information..." i'm interested in your own, exact opinion and not the topic per say - i was hoping you could clarify your second point, since my understanding was that many devices (kitchen appliances like toasters, for example), isolated or not, make use of the chassis for protective grounding. – user3125280 Jul 21 '14 at 12:25
Grounding does not always imply earthing. My point talks about earthing, your question is about grounding. If you want to ask about grounding, pose a different question. – Adam Lawrence Jul 21 '14 at 12:40
the two terms are used differently in different areas (non technically), so i don't know which is which. many devices are connected to a saftey conductor at ground potential. since that doesn't involve isolation, i guess your second point is a little different. do you mean that with isolation, the negative output(for example) could also be attached to the chassis, so that the output is referenced to local ground? sorry if im asking the wrong question. or that earhting the chassis means fault currents won't be present on the output? – user3125280 Jul 21 '14 at 12:53

Short answer - Try holding a screwdriver while sticking it in to a mains power outlet. (Disclaimer - Don't try this at home unless you like recovering in a hospital or have a strong desire to spend eternity looking at the inside of a coffin. Actually, just don't try this.)

Slightly longer answer - Corporate legal departments object to handling the claims from the relatives of those electrocuted while handling equipment that is shorted to the power main.

In switch mode power supplies used in computers there are often intermediate values that are much higher than the normal 240V mains supplies. IIRC 600 or 800V is not unusual. These must be isolated from the mains and the final output rails.

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This doesn't explain why isolation is important though... – Thomas O Nov 15 '10 at 13:08

In addition to the safety issues mentioned, there's also a practical issue: even if one knew that the neutral AC supply leads would always be at ground potential, it would be difficult to design a transformerless low-voltage DC supply which drew current equally on the two halves of each line cycle without the DC side having a significant common-mode voltage swing relative to the neutral supply line. Even if the voltage swing on an exposed "ground" would be low enough not to pose an electrocution risk, connecting the DC-side grounds of different devices could still be likely to disrupt their behavior.

Using transformers to float a supply is not really any more difficult than making the DC ground coincide with the AC supply neutral. There's not really any disadvantage to having low-voltage DC supplies float relative to both power input leads, and in practice having the DC ground tied to AC neutral would introduce some needless safety hazards. Those arguments together form a pretty compelling argument in favor of isolating low-voltage DC supplies from the AC line.

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