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One of the things I've noticed in a few power supplies is the use of a TL431, a voltage reference, as a comparator of sorts.

It seems to be set up in a configuration where when the voltage across it exceeds some point, it conducts, and this turns on an optocoupler. But I thought, almost like a zener, the 431 would only drop a few millivolts across the optocoupler - not enough to turn it on - until it exceeded the set point plus some volts for the optocoupler's LED, but that would be too indeterminate to produce a precise set point.

Below is one example. Page 28 of the datasheet shows exactly what I'm talking about. It's quite useful in this configuration, because it turns out if you put a potentiometer across one of the resistors, configured as a rheostat, you can adjust the feedback and output voltage.

So how can it work or am I missing something?

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look at the triangle

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This doesn't answer my question - how does the TL431 operate as a comparator in the circuit, or is there something I'm missing? – Thomas O Nov 21 '10 at 20:24
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the triangle is a comparator – markrages Nov 21 '10 at 20:49
I thought it was an op-amp configured as a shunt reference. – Thomas O Nov 22 '10 at 10:36
look at the diagram carefully. See the open collector transistor? Notice that "cathode" can be pulled lower than "reference". Notice that the op-amp/comparator is running without feedback. – markrages Nov 22 '10 at 16:01
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@Thomas - Actually, the triangle is an opamp, it's meant to have linear control. markrages is right about pins being equal only when there's negative feedback, but you're supposed to give that feedback in your circuit. Otherwise it wouldn't be a regulator but a switch. – stevenvh Jun 20 '12 at 5:05
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