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I don't think you can do quite what you specified with only one relay.

If you are prepared to modify your requirements so that the circuit is reset when the ignition is turned off (rather than off and back on again) then the solution is simple.

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Figure 1. The modified circuit with all switching in positive lines.

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Figure 2. By moving the load positive to bypass the ignition switch the OP's circuit timing and operation will match that of Figure 1.

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Figure 3. A capacitive "kick" circuit and latch.

How it works:

  • When the ignition is turned on both sides of C1 rise to +12 V. C1 is sized to provide enough energy to energise the relay.
  • The relay contact will then maintain power to the coil and switch on the load.
  • If KILL is pressed the relay will be de-energised. Note that since C1 has been charged via the latch circuit that KILL will have to be held for long enough for the relay to drop out. The delay is shown in the timing diagram. This 'feature' may be enough to make this an unsuitable solution.
  • D1 prevents the coil energising on a negative going pulse when the ignition is turned off.

For a coil resistance of R a rough idea of the time delay is give by \$ \tau = RC \$. This will need to be at least as long as the pick-time response of the relay.

I don't think you can do quite what you specified with only one relay.

If you are prepared to modify your requirements so that the circuit is reset when the ignition is turned off (rather than off and back on again) then the solution is simple.

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Figure 1. The modified circuit with all switching in positive lines.

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Figure 2. By moving the load positive to bypass the ignition switch the OP's circuit timing and operation will match that of Figure 1.

schematic

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Figure 3. A capacitive "kick" circuit and latch.

How it works:

  • When the ignition is turned on both sides of C1 rise to +12 V. C1 is sized to provide enough energy to energise the relay.
  • The relay contact will then maintain power to the coil and switch on the load.
  • If KILL is pressed the relay will be de-energised. Note that since C1 has been charged via the latch circuit that KILL will have to be held for long enough for the relay to drop out. The delay is shown in the timing diagram. This 'feature' may be enough to make this an unsuitable solution.
  • D1 prevents the coil energising on a negative going pulse when the ignition is turned off.

For a coil resistance of R a rough idea of the time delay is give by \$ \tau = RC \$. This will need to be at least as long as the pick-time response of the relay.

I don't think you can do quite what you specified with only one relay.

If you are prepared to modify your requirements so that the circuit is reset when the ignition is turned off (rather than off and back on again) then the solution is simple.

schematic

simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

Figure 1. The modified circuit with all switching in positive lines.

schematic

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Figure 2. By moving the load positive to bypass the ignition switch the OP's circuit timing and operation will match that of Figure 1.

schematic

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Figure 3. A capacitive "kick" circuit and latch.

How it works:

  • When the ignition is turned on both sides of C1 rise to +12 V. C1 is sized to provide enough energy to energise the relay.
  • The relay contact will then maintain power to the coil and switch on the load.
  • If KILL is pressed the relay will be de-energised. Note that since C1 has been charged via the latch circuit that KILL will have to be held for long enough for the relay to drop out. The delay is shown in the timing diagram. This 'feature' may be enough to make this an unsuitable solution.
  • D1 prevents the coil energising on a negative going pulse when the ignition is turned off.

For a coil resistance of R a rough idea of the time delay is give by \$ \tau = RC \$. This will need to be at least as long as the pick-time response of the relay.

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I don't think you can do quite what you specified with only one relay.

If you are prepared to modify your requirements so that the circuit is reset when the ignition is turned off (rather than off and back on again) then the solution is simple.

schematic

simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

Figure 1. The modified circuit with all switching in positive lines.

schematic

simulate this circuit

Figure 2. By moving the load positive to bypass the ignition switch the OP's circuit timing and operation will match that of Figure 1.

schematicschematic

simulate this circuitsimulate this circuit

Figure 3. A capacitive "kick" circuit and latch.

How it works:

  • When the ignition is turned on both sides of C1 rise to +12 V. C1 is sized to provide enough energy to energise the relay.
  • The relay contact will then maintain power to the coil and switch on the load.
  • If KILL is pressed the relay will be de-energised. Note that since C1 has been charged via the latch circuit that KILL will have to be held for long enough for the relay to drop out. The delay is shown in the timing diagram. This 'feature' may be enough to make this an unsuitable solution.
  • D1 prevents the coil energising on a negative going pulse when the ignition is turned off.

For a coil resistance of R a rough idea of the time delay is give by \$ \tau = RC \$. This will need to be at least as long as the pick-time response of the relay.

I don't think you can do quite what you specified with only one relay.

If you are prepared to modify your requirements so that the circuit is reset when the ignition is turned off (rather than off and back on again) then the solution is simple.

schematic

simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

Figure 1. The modified circuit with all switching in positive lines.

schematic

simulate this circuit

Figure 2. By moving the load positive to bypass the ignition switch the OP's circuit timing and operation will match that of Figure 1.

schematic

simulate this circuit

Figure 3. A capacitive "kick" circuit and latch.

How it works:

  • When the ignition is turned on both sides of C1 rise to +12 V. C1 is sized to provide enough energy to energise the relay.
  • The relay contact will then maintain power to the coil and switch on the load.
  • If KILL is pressed the relay will be de-energised. Note that since C1 has been charged via the latch circuit that KILL will have to be held for long enough for the relay to drop out. The delay is shown in the timing diagram. This 'feature' may be enough to make this an unsuitable solution.
  • D1 prevents the coil energising on a negative going pulse when the ignition is turned off.

For a coil resistance of R a rough idea of the time delay is give by \$ \tau = RC \$. This will need to be at least as long as the pick-time response of the relay.

I don't think you can do quite what you specified with only one relay.

If you are prepared to modify your requirements so that the circuit is reset when the ignition is turned off (rather than off and back on again) then the solution is simple.

schematic

simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

Figure 1. The modified circuit with all switching in positive lines.

schematic

simulate this circuit

Figure 2. By moving the load positive to bypass the ignition switch the OP's circuit timing and operation will match that of Figure 1.

schematic

simulate this circuit

Figure 3. A capacitive "kick" circuit and latch.

How it works:

  • When the ignition is turned on both sides of C1 rise to +12 V. C1 is sized to provide enough energy to energise the relay.
  • The relay contact will then maintain power to the coil and switch on the load.
  • If KILL is pressed the relay will be de-energised. Note that since C1 has been charged via the latch circuit that KILL will have to be held for long enough for the relay to drop out. The delay is shown in the timing diagram. This 'feature' may be enough to make this an unsuitable solution.
  • D1 prevents the coil energising on a negative going pulse when the ignition is turned off.

For a coil resistance of R a rough idea of the time delay is give by \$ \tau = RC \$. This will need to be at least as long as the pick-time response of the relay.

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I don't think you can do quite what you specified with only one relay.

If you are prepared to modify your requirements so that the circuit is reset when the ignition is turned off (rather than off and back on again) then the solution is simple.

schematic

simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

Figure 1. The modified circuit with all switching in positive lines.

schematic

simulate this circuit

Figure 2. By moving the load positive to bypass the ignition switch the OP's circuit timing and operation will match that of Figure 1.

schematic

simulate this circuit

Figure 3. A capacitive "kick" circuit and latch.

How it works:

  • When the ignition is turned on both sides of C1 rise to +12 V. C1 is sized to provide enough energy to energise the relay.
  • The relay contact will then maintain power to the coil and switch on the load.
  • If KILL is pressed the relay will be de-energised. Note that since C1 has been charged via the latch circuit that KILL will have to be held for long enough for the relay to drop out. The delay is shown in the timing diagram. This 'feature' may be enough to make this an unsuitable solution.
  • D1 prevents the coil energising on a negative going pulse when the ignition is turned off.

For a coil resistance of R a rough idea of the time delay is give by \$ \tau = RC \$. This will need to be at least as long as the pick-time response of the relay.

I don't think you can do quite what you specified with only one relay.

If you are prepared to modify your requirements so that the circuit is reset when the ignition is turned off (rather than off and back on again) then the solution is simple.

schematic

simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

Figure 1. The modified circuit with all switching in positive lines.

schematic

simulate this circuit

Figure 2. By moving the load positive to bypass the ignition switch the OP's circuit timing and operation will match that of Figure 1.

I don't think you can do quite what you specified with only one relay.

If you are prepared to modify your requirements so that the circuit is reset when the ignition is turned off (rather than off and back on again) then the solution is simple.

schematic

simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

Figure 1. The modified circuit with all switching in positive lines.

schematic

simulate this circuit

Figure 2. By moving the load positive to bypass the ignition switch the OP's circuit timing and operation will match that of Figure 1.

schematic

simulate this circuit

Figure 3. A capacitive "kick" circuit and latch.

How it works:

  • When the ignition is turned on both sides of C1 rise to +12 V. C1 is sized to provide enough energy to energise the relay.
  • The relay contact will then maintain power to the coil and switch on the load.
  • If KILL is pressed the relay will be de-energised. Note that since C1 has been charged via the latch circuit that KILL will have to be held for long enough for the relay to drop out. The delay is shown in the timing diagram. This 'feature' may be enough to make this an unsuitable solution.
  • D1 prevents the coil energising on a negative going pulse when the ignition is turned off.

For a coil resistance of R a rough idea of the time delay is give by \$ \tau = RC \$. This will need to be at least as long as the pick-time response of the relay.

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