Timeline for Why is wired Ethernet losing its speed advantage over wireless?
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| S Jun 23, 2020 at 13:31 | history | suggested | auspicious99 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Dec 16, 2019 at 21:43 | comment | added | barbecue | @old_timer in fact my last MB came with 2.5ghz ethernet. | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 20:37 | comment | added | Marcus Müller | @FrankHopkins exactly, marketing! modern mesh solution (whilst still expensive) seem to be really easy (press button on access point or nearest mesh node, press button on new mesh node / repeater, done) | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 19:48 | comment | added | Frank Hopkins | @MarcusMüller from a marketing perspective, sure, from a personal perspective: hell no, even more access points to configure and make sure they don't interfere. Btw. I'm fine with a wireless router for tablets and smarties at home, as that's the natural solution for them, and any "it doesn't work (fast enough)" can be answered by 'use the desktop / laptop with a cable then'. I'm not fine with wireless to bridge the rooms between the main router and whereever the desktop/laptop is mainly used, but recommend ethernet or will not do any fixing of "speed" issues etc. | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 15:56 | comment | added | Marcus Müller | @FrankHopkins but the sensible approach to "wireless is, at times, much faster than it needs to be, but the problem is it's not reliably fast enough" is making sure we raise the guaranteed availability, e.g. by more access points indoors, since it'll be hard to sell iPads with ethernet ports. | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 12:37 | comment | added | old_timer | consumers will probably start getting desktop/gamer machines with 2.5 along with switches in the near future as the 2.5 gains traction. Lan party folks have had access to 10 for a while now although probably dont use it due to the cost even with direct attach copper (DAC) vs fiber. But even small lets say medium businesses that have an IT department are using or wanting 10 between their file system and servers or at least the backup system. 10/25G sfp+ boards have been out for a while so they can switch to those and get 25 when both sides are ready. | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 12:33 | comment | added | old_timer | 2.5, 5, 10, 25, 40, 50, 100, ... are all available on the market now for wired. Commercial access points are starting to use 2.5 and 5.0 to handle the number of radios in the unit. Servers are likely to move from 10 to 25 in the near future. 2.5 and 5 are using the existing cat 6 pairs. 25 and 50 are able to use the same copper that 10 uses (10 has been around for a long while now). 100 was using 10 pairs of 10 but 100 is moving to 4 pairs of 25 using qsfp28 instead of cxp. If you use copper, fiber is of course available but costly for these speeds. | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 1:58 | comment | added | Aron | @FrankHopkins WiFi has the advantage of being universally a WiFe approved standard. Whereas ethernet compliance to WiFe standards can vary drastically between locations. | |
| Dec 14, 2019 at 20:11 | comment | added | Frank Hopkins | @akohlsmith I'd argue that Wireless is the actual pain - for all of us that are assumed to know how computer networking works and that get asked "why doesn't it work? Why is it so slow?! Fix it please!". The advantage that wired has independent of potential max speed, is its stableness. No interference no configuration problems. It just works - unless you physically break the cable. But you are totally right in your assessment what consumers at the moment mostly ask for. | |
| Dec 14, 2019 at 10:34 | comment | added | William | I would question what the average person would need 10Gbps(x100) for. Development tends to follow demand. Wireless had to play catch up to reach the demand, Ethernet reached it a long time ago. | |
| Dec 13, 2019 at 17:14 | comment | added | akohlsmith | @francois tell me, have people been more interested in faster wireless or faster wired? Typical consumers want faster wireless, and that is where commercial business has been focusing for quite some time now. For most consumer needs, ethernet is a pain, and gigabit is plenty fast. | |
| Dec 13, 2019 at 17:09 | comment | added | The Photon | Ethernet standards exist for 200 and 400 Gb/s also. IEEE 802.3-2018 clauses 116-124. (802.3ae, 802.3ba, etc., were proposals and drafts, not official standards. These proposals are now codfied in various clauses of 802.3-2018) | |
| Dec 13, 2019 at 16:00 | comment | added | Marcus Müller | @Francois no, you don't have a point. You have a postulation "there should be a fixed ratio between wireless and wired speed", and that's not based on anything! | |
| Dec 13, 2019 at 15:50 | comment | added | Francois | Yes but let say from year 2005 the average person wireless transmission speed went from 11Mbps to 1000Mbps+ (x100), in the same time range, Ethernet speed for average person went from 100Mbps to well 1Gbps (x10). See my point? | |
| Dec 13, 2019 at 15:03 | history | edited | Marcus Müller | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Dec 13, 2019 at 15:03 | comment | added | Dave Tweed | See Linus Tech Tips. But that isn't the point of the question. | |
| Dec 13, 2019 at 15:00 | comment | added | user1850479 | @BrianB A 10gbit SFP+ module costs about the same or a little less than an M2 802.11ax card. A 40gbit QSPF+ module cost $5-10 more. Switches are more expensive (since they have to be able to process incredible amounts of bandwidth), but WiFi cards are not particularly cheap compared to 10/40Gbit transceivers. | |
| Dec 13, 2019 at 14:58 | comment | added | BrianB | Sure - you can buy 10G equipment if you're willing to pay a lot of money. But what are the use cases for the average home consumer to need anything more the 1GE connection to a single piece of equipment? | |
| Dec 13, 2019 at 14:55 | comment | added | Dave Tweed | In fact, 10G Ethernet IS readily available in the consumer market. | |
| Dec 13, 2019 at 14:54 | history | answered | BrianB | CC BY-SA 4.0 |