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Thanks to the help of a few of the other guys I have my AC to DC rectifier working, and the rest of the power supply working.

Now while testing the power supply, my 18V AC transformer gets rectified and put into my circuit below enter image description here

And I end up with 1.3-26V DC output selectable via the pot R2.

Now while running this @12V with a LED strip light, running about 600mA my heat sink got quite hot. Not hot enough to cause the thermal protection in the LM317 to cut in but hot enough to get me thinking.

Power dissipated = (Vin - Vout)*Il = (26 - 12)*0.6 = 8.4W

My heat sink is rated at 11 C/W and I pasted the LM317(TO-220) on.

Max C/W is = (MaxRunningTemp - ambientTemp) / power = (60-25)/8.4 = 4.2 C/W

Does that sound right, never done any heat sink calculations before. So I would need a heat sink rated at <4.2 C/W

I would not see my self running this over 500mA again but running this circuit at 5V would change a lot? The power dissipated would be 42W if 5V @ 500mA. What can I do to prevent needing a HUGE heatsink? and are my calculations above correct?

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Define:

  • Tmax = hottest desired case (or heatsink) temperature.
    Imax = max current for this design.
    Tamb = ambient air temperature
    Vin = Voltage from power supply
    Vout = Voltage out of regulator.
    Tj = junction temperature
    Rjc - thermal resistance junction to case.
    Rca = Heatsink thermal resistance.
    Preg = Regulator power dissipation.

Required minimum heatsink = (Tmax-Tamb)/(Vin-Vout)/ Imax C/W

Junction temperature = (Vin-Vout)x Imax x (Rjc + Rca) + Tamb

Preg = (Vin - Vout) x Imax.


Add a series resistor to reduce regulator dissipation:

  • Vinreg = Regulator input voltage.
    R = Resistor resistance. Pr = Resistor power dissipation. Vdo = regulator dropout volatge

R <= (Vin - Vo_max_with_resistor - Vdo) x Imax.

Pr = Imax^2 x R Vinreg = Vin - (Imax x R) Pvreg = (Vin - Vinreg)x Imax.

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More anon if needed.

Your calculations are essentially correct (except as Mark points out, your 42W figures - this appears to be a mental typo - multiply by 0.5, not divide by 0.5).

Don't forget that there is an internal 5 C/W Rjc to allow for.

For limiting case assume junction max allowable is 125C and that internal thermal limiting will occur at that point.

To reduce power dissipation in IC for low Vout use a series resistor.

R <= (Vin - Vo_max_with_resistor - 2) x Imax.

eg For Vout max with a given resistor of say 8V and with 26V in and with I out max with this resistor of 600 mA -

  • R <= (26-8-2)/0.6 <= 26.666 ohms. Say 27 ohms

At 0.6A it will drop 0.6 x 27 =+ 16 V.
Vin_reg = 26-16 = 10V.
This gives the regulator 2V headroom.

LM317 datasheet says headroom at 600 mA, warm ~= 1.8V (fig 3) so that's just marginal.

Resistor will drop V^2/R = (26-10)^2/27 = 9.5 Watt.

Regulator will drop (10-5) x .6 = 3 Watt.

It's time you got a switching power supply :-).

For interest, under these conditions the internal 5 C/W Rjc will drop 3 x 5 = 15C.
For junction JUST at 125C Tc = 125 - 15 = 110C.
Sizzles with wet finger. Tca = (110-25) = 85C
Heatink needed = 85/3 ~= 25 C/W.

ie a modest heatsink will suffice if you don't Mind boiling water temperatures on the case and heat sink. The resistor will be hot :-).

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  • \$\begingroup\$ @Ashley Hughes - some more material at start of my answer \$\endgroup\$
    – Russell McMahon
    Commented Sep 30, 2011 at 15:06
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Your calculations are mostly correct, but 5V and 500mA is 10.5W, not 42W.

Anyway, you have discovered why switching power supplies are so popular. A switching regulator doesn't burn up the extra power as heat. A switching regulator is a bit tricky to design.

Heat sinks can be much improved in effectiveness with the addition of a fan. In fact, you might appropriate a heatsink / fan assembly from an old computer. (Old Pentiums could dissipate over 70 watts. Wikipedia link until the deletionists get it.)

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  • \$\begingroup\$ I think I will look into switching power supplies, but then again it's is only for my bench top work. Adding a fan is one option that I thought of before but this would introduce a lot of noise would it not? \$\endgroup\$ Commented Sep 30, 2011 at 23:12
  • \$\begingroup\$ Yes, noise is the disadvantage of a fan. If you're not going to draw lots of power from your supply most of the time, you could arrange a thermal switch to turn the fan on only when the heatsink heats up. \$\endgroup\$
    – markrages
    Commented Sep 30, 2011 at 23:41
  • \$\begingroup\$ Think I might leave it on the heat sink that it has and lower the input voltage which in turn should low the amount of power it has to dissipate \$\endgroup\$ Commented Oct 1, 2011 at 0:16
  • \$\begingroup\$ Lower input voltage should work fine. \$\endgroup\$
    – markrages
    Commented Oct 1, 2011 at 3:22

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