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Suppose I'm designing a transmitter which has an LO and an IQ mixer. I would like to shift the LO down by 100 MHz or so, so I can mix it with the IQ mixer output so I can monitor the IQ mixer balance and LO leakage. The main issue is that the LO might be anywhere from 4 to 8 GHz. My worry is that if I use a single sideband mixer to generate the LO-100 MHz, the upper sideband (LO+100 MHz) will also mix with the IQ mixer output, and so I will never be able to tune the IQ mixer better than the SSB mixer suppresses it's upper sideband. I've determined this is the case if you assume a mixer is a perfect multiplier.

However, I understand that mixers aren't linear... if the LO+100 MHz sideband is 25 dB lower than LO-100 MHz, will it contribute at all?

Second, if I have this signal which consists of LO-100 MHz and a much smaller LO+100 Mhz, how do I knock out LO+100 MHz if LO spans an octave?

Finally, is there a good way to do what I seem to be trying to do? I just wanna get the output of the IQ mixer from the microwave range back down to the 0-1 GHz range so I can monitor it easily. I wonder if a sampling detector is a good way to go.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Little suggestion: explain each non-obvious acronym the first time you use it, makes the question much easier to read. \$\endgroup\$
    – clabacchio
    Commented Jul 24, 2017 at 6:55

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If you have access to unmodulated LO, use that to drive LO port of a mixer, while feeding the TX output (leakage of carrier, USB, LSB) into RF port of mixer. The output DC will be proportional to TX carrier leakage. The two sidebands will fold one atop the other, hiding details you want to observe.

"However, I understand however that mixers aren't linear... if the LO+100 MHz sideband is 25 dB lower than LO-100 MHz, will it contribute at all?" YES it will contribute, proportional to amplitude.

I'd consider, as you already are, the sampling detector. What dynamic range of desired to undesired energy must you view?

I've assisted in implementing -40dBc LO and Sideband suppression circuits in the 500MHz region. We ended up with -50dBc and were pleased. You want -70dBc and 4 octaves higher LO. That requires much careful balancing of parasitics in the 4,000 to 8,000MHz range; on a PCB this will not happen.

Consider 400Mhz and 444MHz sampling clocks, so you can place the fold-over regions (200, 400, 600, 800, 1000, 1200 etc for the 400MHz sampling clock) in clear regions by using the other sampling clock.


Or use a synthesizer IC and Crystal reference, to generate a separate LO for a separate Mixer IC. Get some IC company's ReferenceDesign PCB.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ I need to suppress the undesired sideband and LO leakage to 70 dBc \$\endgroup\$
    – Evan
    Commented Jul 23, 2017 at 17:04
  • \$\begingroup\$ As long as I have you here, is there any way to make a sampler without buying SRDs? Are there any microwave samplers good up to 10 GHz that are just available as chips? I was thinking of folding the spectrum over in factors of two. Mix with a 5 GHz tone, then 2.5, etc... but I'd use some PIN diodes in succession to multiply up a cheap crystal oscillator to form the LOs. \$\endgroup\$
    – Evan
    Commented Jul 23, 2017 at 17:10

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