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I'm considering re-implementing my thermistor measurement circuit to be isolated, since it's destined for an industrial environment. The thermistor is a simple passive sensor and is not grounded on the far end.

U1 is a 5V/5V regulator rated for 3kV isolation. The line out to the thermistor is connected to protection shottkys, a TVS zener, and caps that set the time constant at (I think) ~1s.

U3 is a "linearized" optoisolator rated to 3.75kV isolation.

Back-of-the-envelope calculations for the following nominal values:

  • the input and output of U2 at 2.5V,
  • the LED current at 8.7mA,
  • Irm1 = Irm2 = 90uA,
  • line time constant = 853ms

schematic

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Questions:

  • Have I made any mistakes in how the circuit is connected or the passives are chosen?
  • Is it even necessary for this isolation to be done, given that the far end does not have its own ground?
  • Are there any rules I should follow with regard to PCB layout (especially shuffling around the diodes and caps, etc.)
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Thermistors are relatively high level devices and are not generally grounded so it's not usually necessary to isolate them. You can add a low pass filter and use shielded wire to the thermistor if you expect significant EMI.

You should check the reverse leakage of those Schottky diodes- if they are the type I think I see-- at -4V and 75 degrees C they will typically leak 200uA!


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schematic

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  • \$\begingroup\$ The shottkys are SB140TA. Based on the specsheet, for 75C and even slight reverse bias, the leakage looks closer to 300uA :( \$\endgroup\$
    – Reinderien
    Commented Aug 30, 2017 at 13:26
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    \$\begingroup\$ You might be able to get away with a BAT54, but I would add series resistance so the diodes don't have to work as hard and consider using a BAV99 with a bit more series resistance on the other side. It's better to have some series resistance to drop voltage than to try to shunt all the current away. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Aug 30, 2017 at 13:51
  • \$\begingroup\$ In terms of order away from the thermistor, would it go: R, diodes, C? Something small like 100 ohm? Since the resistance is critical to measurement, I'd have to account for it when calculating the temperature. \$\endgroup\$
    – Reinderien
    Commented Aug 30, 2017 at 14:39
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    \$\begingroup\$ You can add a lot of resistance in series with the non-inverting input without it affecting anything significantly. I'll add a quick schematic above. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Aug 30, 2017 at 15:16
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    \$\begingroup\$ @Reinderien So is the BAT54, BTW. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Aug 30, 2017 at 17:04

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