1
\$\begingroup\$

I am trying to design a charging circuit which support QuickCharge but also I want to add USB-UART bridge to communicate with on board MCU. How can I establish voltage level safe communication through UART bridge while VBus level is controlled by fast charge IC? What I mean, VBus would be get higher as 20V. Generally found USB-UART bridges are just handling 5V max. Lets look CP2102. This IC has actually self-powered configuration through Vdd but that still needs to be connected to VBus with threshold 5V. There should be some simple solution I could not think.

\$\endgroup\$
6
  • \$\begingroup\$ The simple solution may very well be to not mix fast charger capability with a USB comms capability. It would seem that your not being sure of how to handle the situation suggests that you should leave well enough alone. \$\endgroup\$ Nov 7, 2018 at 3:26
  • 1
    \$\begingroup\$ Would a 5-V voltage regulator work for you? What kind of reference designs are available from QC control ICs manufacturers to guide you? \$\endgroup\$ Nov 7, 2018 at 6:48
  • \$\begingroup\$ only 3.3V is needed for the UART beridge, perhaps there's an LDO regulator that can handle 20V in \$\endgroup\$ Nov 7, 2018 at 7:44
  • \$\begingroup\$ what sort of USB-UART bridge is capable of also negotiating fast charge? \$\endgroup\$ Nov 7, 2018 at 7:46
  • 1
    \$\begingroup\$ @Jasen, USB-UART bridges don't negotiate QuickCharge, true, but power circuits around it can. However, there seems to be one little problem with QC: it uses DC levels on USB data lines to negotiate fast charge, and gets disabled if you need to use USB for data transfer. I have found no indication that QC and data sync can work simultaneously. I would be glad to hear otherwise. \$\endgroup\$ Nov 8, 2018 at 19:19

2 Answers 2

1
\$\begingroup\$

You should use a USB 3 PD controller (sink role). These devices pass the D+ and D- while implementing the power levels negotiations with the host.

\$\endgroup\$
0
\$\begingroup\$

power the UART from the battery.

\$\endgroup\$
7
  • \$\begingroup\$ how is it not a solution? \$\endgroup\$ Nov 7, 2018 at 9:18
  • \$\begingroup\$ Sorry my mistake; deleted the automatic remark. \$\endgroup\$ Nov 7, 2018 at 9:23
  • \$\begingroup\$ Would it be a problem to connect all data lines then? USB-UART Bridge would be CP2102 and quick charge IC is CHY103D. \$\endgroup\$
    – meakcey
    Nov 7, 2018 at 9:45
  • 1
    \$\begingroup\$ CHY103 goes inside the charger, what do you have inside the device to call for fast charge? \$\endgroup\$ Nov 7, 2018 at 9:52
  • \$\begingroup\$ CHY103 makes it fast charger by communicating with the connected device through data lines. Voltage feedback network is controlled by it. \$\endgroup\$
    – meakcey
    Nov 7, 2018 at 10:14

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service and acknowledge you have read our privacy policy.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.