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I was looking at the LT6118 datasheet, since the TI amps (like te INA381) I am used to are not available. They mostly do the same thing, and probably are intended as direct competitors, IMHO. The job is moderately simple, amplify the signal of a current shunt and offer a trip comparator.

However it seems that the architecture is completely different:

  • TI uses a (probably chopper stabilized) instrumentation amplifier to directly amplify the voltage drop on the shunt (gain is factory selected) and that's it, they output the voltage; they probably use laser trimmed dividers inside to achieve the required common mode range;

  • Linear/Analog instead servoes a current source to balance the shunt with an external resistor, making in fact some kind of automatic bridge; the same current needs to be developed externally into an output signal; gain is user controllable by resistor; the CM range is, frankly, a mess.

Linear schematic

What would be the advantage of such an 'indirect' measurement technique? It's only a design choice or philosophy? My first guess is that the current servo affords more bandwidth (the zero drift chopper restrict it) and maybe there is some self cancellation in the amp errors. But on the other hand gain accuracy is mostly delegated to the external resistor (the 'second arm' of the bridge). Also there is a significant power dissipation involved with the current source.

Maybe it's just that TI does better chopper amps while Analog is better on some other kind of topology (they to the over the top amp so I don't think that would be a good reason)

Just curious, am I missing something?

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  • \$\begingroup\$ the same current needs to be developed externally into an output signal - that is totally untrue if I read what you are implying correctly. The balanced bridge technique is a well-established method of high-side current sensing. \$\endgroup\$
    – Andy aka
    Mar 29, 2022 at 13:07
  • \$\begingroup\$ I edited and added the application from the datasheet. I'd say that the servo current (Iout) is the same in the Rin resistor and in the output resistors. I recognized it as a bridge but never seen before (also the part cost 10 times more) so I wondered about the advantages \$\endgroup\$ Mar 29, 2022 at 13:29
  • \$\begingroup\$ OK, I thought you were saying that Rin current needs to be the same as the monitored current. \$\endgroup\$
    – Andy aka
    Mar 29, 2022 at 13:50
  • \$\begingroup\$ One big advantage is that linearity becomes a complete non-issue, since the sensor is only detecting a null. \$\endgroup\$
    – Dave Tweed
    Mar 29, 2022 at 14:34

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The LT (voltage-controlled current source) approach is a great way to get very high common mode rejection without exotic techniques. I've implemented this method with RR-in op-amps rather than using boutique parts (in that particular case I wanted a part that was rad tested). I would say it's the default method. Accuracy is first order dependent on resistor values. Usually we're not all that concerned about current accuracy (and the shut accuracy is usually the limiting factor) so this is fine. The nominal rail voltage is typically known and fixed.

We are not shown what methods are used to implement the in-amp in the TI part. Just a mysterious block. If a conventional 3-amplifier in-amp was used (with some method of dealing with common mode range, forget that for now) the accuracy becomes dependent on the ratio of rail voltage to sense voltage times the resistor tolerance, which is a much bigger sensitivity (due to common-mode rejection). We usually want the sense voltage to be as small as practical, of course, so that ratio will be as large as practical. There would still be a "servo" with currents related to the sense voltage, of course, just hidden inside that in-amp block. Of course I suspect they are doing something else in there, probably involving capacitors and switches. It's not easy to do this outside of a chip. If you can use that part and if you can get it.. .it seems to be aimed at volume markets so price/performance is excellent.

As to cost difference- anything starting with "LT" will be premium-priced- that's what they do. If a function becomes commoditized they are not interested. The LT part, being 60V, is useful for 48V systems, for example.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ For reference, the datasheet for INA181 has a bit more details in the diagram. \$\endgroup\$
    – jaskij
    Mar 29, 2022 at 16:38
  • \$\begingroup\$ Funny thing… I found the complete explanation in an AN from analog; well, linear now is analog but the AN is old. Analog Dialogue 42-01 for the interested. Not that there is the Analog/Linear/Maxim bloc all the boutique parts are in one basket I would say \$\endgroup\$ Mar 30, 2022 at 6:54
  • \$\begingroup\$ As for the 'mystery amp' in TI block diagram: for experience the zero drift series has chopper zeroing and from the the specs I guess they use pair of laser trimmed voltage dividers. Analog call them 'difference amplifier', the shunt amplifier are all of the servo kind. Almost 15 years in the industry and still can't navigate the product catalogs! \$\endgroup\$ Mar 30, 2022 at 6:57

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