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I'm looking to make a DAC for my Arduino so that I can generate values spanning almost completely from 0V to the 5V supply. Because I won't have access to any +12V or -12V rails or anything, I'm afraid that I won't be able to incorporate any op-amps or other active components.

Fortunately, R-2R resistor network DAC's fit the bill almost perfectly...

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Fortunately, the thing I'm driving this with has high input-impedance, so this circuit works very well for my needs. However, I don't need the lower voltages in the range, so I was hoping to develop a resistor network which had an offset. So, for a network of n bits, instead of getting 2^n values within 0V-5V, maybe I could get 2^n values between, say, 1V-5V.

While googling around, I came across a priceless snippet on Wikipedia which read: "It is not necessary that each "rung" of the R-2R ladder use the same resistor values. It is only necessary that the 2R value matches the sum of the R value plus the Thévenin-equivalent resistance of the lower-significance rungs.". So, I figured that I might be able to add in a little voltage-divider to "lift" the ground that the main network is seeing:

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simulate this circuit

Because the Thevenin resistance of the lower-left corner (the two 100-ohm resistors in the voltage divider plus the 150-ohm resistor) is still 200 ohms, I still get fairly linear voltages with increasing binary values.

However, this arrangement leaves two things to be desired. First, it requires that I know, beforehand, how much of a lift I'll want. It would be nice if I could have a potentiometer in there, somewhere, so that I could just dial in whatever lift I want.

Second, there's a limit to the amount of lift I can get. Even if I tweak the voltage divider to give me the full 5V feeding into the left side of the circuit, it looks like the most lift I can get is (5V/2^n).

Does anybody know of different ways of tweaking the circuit to solve either of these issues?

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    \$\begingroup\$ Is there some reason you don't want to use a PWM signal and a low-pass filter to generate the analog voltages? \$\endgroup\$
    – Joe Hass
    Commented Dec 12, 2013 at 16:12
  • \$\begingroup\$ I think PWM was the first way I was going to do it but I couldn't get the output to be smooth enough. This is all part of a circuit to measure AC ripple in DC power supplies under varying current loads. This DAC is driving the transistor which is putting the load on the power supply. If there were any ripple in this voltage, it would ripple the load current and affect my readings. \$\endgroup\$
    – Jemenake
    Commented Dec 12, 2013 at 16:54
  • \$\begingroup\$ You do only lose a fraction of a bit if you go from 0-5 to 1-5V or such range differences. I highly doubt it's worth the hassle and nonlinearity to try this. \$\endgroup\$
    – user36129
    Commented May 12, 2014 at 7:59
  • \$\begingroup\$ @user36129 A fraction of a bit can be useful if you only have three bits, and you won't get much more than that when doing a ladder like this. \$\endgroup\$
    – pipe
    Commented Dec 13, 2015 at 22:14

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Well you can certainly get op-amps that do work well from a 5V rail but ignoring that part of the question and concentrating on the two 0V points on the first circuit, if these were at 1V then there would be no problem. However, the outputs from the MCU (shown as switches connected to either 0 volts or positive rail) cannot be disentangled from 0V.

But, if you used a bunch of analoge switches (as you have basically drawn in the diagram) this would work fine. The two triangular shaped ground points could connect to any abitrarily low voltage (such as 2V or 1V) and the range of your DAC would stretch from whatever voltage you choose upon for the "ground" up to whatever voltage you choose for the other supply to the analogue switches.

There are suitable parrts that run from 5V and give very low impedance for "on" and beyod-the-rails capability. I'll try and find one to recommend.

Here's a single device (one-eigth of the way) that does SPDT but I'm sure with a bit of searching a quad device could be found (half way there): -

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Did you try just to pull-up your R2R matrix?

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simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

It decreases and pulls up the DAC working area, and also it decreases the DAC step.

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I agree with the last contributor, to introduce a new msb to force the rest of the bits into the upper or lower half.

If you want to adjust upward by a sub-lsb amount you can also play with the 2R to ground (usually shown at the left end). With this grounded the input binary value of zero results in an output of zero volts and all ones results in an output of Vref minus one lsb. By raising the 2R resistor to Vref a binary input of all zeros results in one lsb of voltage and all ones gives Vref at the output. Anything in between can be achieved by generating the left point through a voltage divider between Vref and ground as long as the parallel combination of the legs of the voltage divider is maintained at 2R. For example one half lsb would be obtained for 4R to ground and 4R to Vref. It is like the 2R resistor to ground at the left end is the true lsb.

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