# Will doubling thinner wire in lieu of thicker wire work?

I've been needing a jumper cable for a while and have plenty of 10 AWG copper wire lying around. From what I've read, 6 AWG wire is recommended for jumper cables. I want to make a 7 foot cable.

So, I was wondering if it would be possible to use three (or more if needed) 7-foot pieces of 10 AWG wire, and use them instead of one 7-foot piece of 6 AWG wire? Would the 10 AWG x 3 cable be able to handle as many amperes as a single 6 AWG wire can?

Yes, keeping in mind that the rule is that an increment of 3 in AWG numbers represents a halving of the cross-sectional area of a wire. The current capacity is directly related to that area.

This means that to create the equivalent of a wire of AWG(N), you need two strands of AWG(N+3), or three strands of AWG(N+5). Three strands of AWG(N+4) gives you some extra safety margin.

• Ah! Thanks for explaining it in a super simple way! I'll be going with the 3 strands then. May 19, 2014 at 13:31

Yes, this is a common practice. With electric motors, for example, we often substitute 2 or 3 thinner parallel wires for 1 thicker wire. This allows us to fit the wire through thinner openings and thinner wire is often easier to bend.

When you substitute, you will want to keep the cross sectional area the same or more than the 6 AWG wire. 6 AWG has a cross-sectional area of 26,244 circular mils. You could use three 10 gauge wires (31152 cir. mils) which would be more than enough. Or you could use two 10 AWG and one 12 AWG (27297 cir. mils) which would be about right.

• Much appreciated Brad. Thanks for the explanation. May 19, 2014 at 13:32

The problem with light jumper cables is not typically the ampacity of the wire, it's the voltage drop due to the resistance. Two AWG 10 wires will handle similar current to a single AWG (110A vs. 101A) as can be seen from the table I've linked. The reason is that there is more surface area on two wires so they can shed the heat better.

That does not help your car to start because it means that the power that should be cranking your engine smartly is going into the wires and not the starter motor.

So you want to keep the resistance down to the equivalent of AWG 6 for 7', which is 2*7/1000 * 395m$\Omega$ = 5.53m$\Omega$ (using the ohms/1000' values from the table I linked- image below). Three strands of AWG 10 are 2 * 7/1000 * (1/3) * 1000m$\Omega$ = 4.67m$\Omega$, which is a bit better.

If you make the cable longer, you would want to keep the total loop resistance similar, so an even heavier gauge of wire is called for. It's not uncommon for 16' jumper cables to be AWG 4, but that works out to 6.3m$\Omega$, which is worse than your three strands of AWG 10 that are only 7' per side.

Edit:-

The question has been raised that perhaps the ratios of ampacity for chassis wiring do not represent the ratios of ampacity for free air, that they might somehow be completely different rather than roughly 2:1 for free air. I won't insert the relevant charts here, because to use them you have to refer to a lot of other charts and derate for various factors (and they are not conservative without derating), but to pick a single data point, continuous operation at 70°C rise (limited by insulation rating), the AW6 ampacity is 120A and AWG 10 is good for 60A, so just as I said. Derating for bundling the AWG 10s into triples or doubles is left as an exercise for the reader, since ampacity is really the wrong thing to be looking at, once we have established that it is more than adequate. Refer to FAA specification 43.13-1B for more information.

• I don't understand why you discussed using 2 lengths of AWG 10 in the first part of your answer when the OP asked about using 3 lengths. The table gives ampacity for chassis wiring but the question is about short term use in free air...entirely different use case. Also, why did you bother to include a graphic with much unnecessary information but cut off the data for AWG 10? May 19, 2014 at 12:16
• @SpehroPefhany . +1 . I agree that the voltage drop is more important. I have seen spindly (smaller gauge) wires that have difficulty starting cars. I have never had to grind a starter long enough to overheat cables. May 19, 2014 at 13:26
• @SpehroPefhany, my apologies if my title was misleading. Thanks for your detailed explanation. May 19, 2014 at 13:42
• @Person09 No problem, I assumed you were choosing between two and three, and I think all the answers conclude that three is correct. Where we differ is the procedure to come to that conclusion, and I hope the detailed explanation will help others in the future. May 19, 2014 at 14:18
• @JoeHass Okay, you're looking at differences- the difference at 400A is between two strands and three is 2.8V vs. 1.9V. If the car battery and connectors give you 9V then the reduction in power at the starter is about 25%. The current is not smooth- it varies with the engine rotation and cylinder compression, so I think the reduction in torque is probably going to be at least that large. Anyway, personal experience is that engines start well with fat jumpers and don't start well (or at all) with skinny ones, and it's not because the insulation on the jumpers melt. May 19, 2014 at 15:44