I am designing a system which needs to run for 3 minutes, then charge as quickly as possible, then run for 3 minutes, then charge as quickly as possible, and so on.

In order to reduce the charging time, I am using a very high capacity Lithium Polymer battery pack. Since these can charge at 1C, the higher the capacity the faster they can charge.

Also, since the capacity is so high, I am only using a few percent of the capacity. So the battery stays within 45% - 55% capacity for its whole life.

Question: What is the reason Lithium Polymer batteries are limited to 1C charging?

Question: If I'm charging a Lithium Polymer battery for about 90 seconds at 1C, taking it to no more than 3.8v, could I safely charge at more than 1C?


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Q: What is the reason Lithium Polymer batteries are limited to 1C charging?

A: They're not, at least not fundamentally. You can get 5C and 10C charging batteries from e.g. A123 systems. The reason batteries are limited on paper to relatively slow charging rates is to avoid internal hot spots, caused by a chemical-physical phenomenon that causes lithium chemistry batteries to discharge relatively evenly over their electrodes, but actually concentrates charging current to the areas that have the highest ion mobility. This is chemistry dependent; there are cathode materials that avoid this problem mostly and thus can charge faster. It's fairly specialty stuff though, and it is generally not a good idea to use chemical energy storage for rapid-cycle applications. I will come back to this later

Q: If I'm charging a Li+ battery for 90s at 1C, can I safely charge at more than 1C?

A: Most Li+ chemistries can safely charge up to 2C with a voltage cap, but with reduced lifetime. Not deeply discharging the batteries will alleviate this though, and then some. The cycle life of a battery increases at least tenfold if you discharge it at most 10% instead of 50%. Check with the manufacturer or datasheet to make sure though. If there is no datasheet, you shouldn't use the battery in a production environment anyway.


It's not a good idea to use a battery as a quick-cycle energy storage. Even with shallow discharging, especially high current batteries will only last you about 10 000 cycles. This is what (ultra)capacitors are for, especially if you are oversizing the battery anyway. The only downside to a capacitor is the ~10x decrease in volumetric efficiency compared to a battery. Without that problem, capacitors are much more suitable for quick charging and discharging. You can charge Maxwell's BCAP series within 15s, for instance. That's 1000 and 3000F capacitors, hundreds of amps. Besides, with large charging and discharging currents, your supporting circuitry and cabling will probably be larger than the power source anyway.

Also, it's generally a much better idea to store and use lithium chemistry batteries at the top of their capacity, near 4.25V. You get more power out of them for less current and you charge them faster with lower C-rating. Also their apparent internal impedance is much lower the 'fuller' a Li+ battery is.

  • \$\begingroup\$ So, are you saying that if I stay within the 60% - 70% charge range, then I can charge at 2C without reducing the life? \$\endgroup\$ Jul 15, 2014 at 9:43
  • \$\begingroup\$ You will probably still reduce lifetime if you go over manufacturer spec, but 2C is still fairly safe for high performance cells (e.g. 5C discharge rated and better). But it's obviously even better to stay between 90 and 100% charge - or probably more like 85-95 because of the impedance and subsequent overvoltage you would get charging at 2C near 100% . \$\endgroup\$
    – user36129
    Jul 15, 2014 at 9:46
  • \$\begingroup\$ This seems to contradict the information at Battery University which says that staying away from 100%. \$\endgroup\$ Jul 15, 2014 at 9:54
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Rocketmagnet: you mean for storage? That's a much more complicated story; that's not a fundamental property of lithium as much as it is a property of the cathode materials. As a general rule, high performance lithium ion cells need to be stored full if possible. \$\endgroup\$
    – user36129
    Jul 15, 2014 at 10:33
  • \$\begingroup\$ (edit: battery university actually updated the page recently, ignore previous comment. They even added a section on wireless charging. Still, if you want the best possible information and data on lithium ion batteries, browse around on AVSforums and CPforums) \$\endgroup\$
    – user36129
    Jul 15, 2014 at 10:35

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