NOTE: I am asking this question because I am new to this subject, and I want to be sure about what I'm doing before I go out and buy parts.

I am making a really fancy watch with an OLED screen, sensors, and all those goodies, along with an arduino nano requiring 7-12V in its input in order to function. My plan is to put two 3.7V LiPo cells in series.

I'll need to charge them every so often, and of course, when I do, I don't want to interrupt power to the watch. So, I am currently following this online guide:


(This is a tutorial to build a "... circuit [that] disconnects the battery when USB power is connected, the load will instead use power from USB. This allows the battery to charge normally without any outside disturbances.")

My question is this: is it safe to make two of these circuits, wire them up in parallel, and charge both batteries at the same time? And if that's no good, is it at least safe to charge each one individually in this series setup?


  • \$\begingroup\$ Why not use a boost regulator instead of a 2S battery? \$\endgroup\$ Dec 13, 2014 at 15:19
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    \$\begingroup\$ Why not? Because I didn't know that it existed until your comment... (like I said, I'm pretty new). Is this a better option? \$\endgroup\$
    – Mahkoe
    Dec 13, 2014 at 15:24
  • \$\begingroup\$ It may be. It will definitely simplify charging since you'll only have a single cell, but switching regulators have their own caveats wrt noise. \$\endgroup\$ Dec 13, 2014 at 15:25
  • \$\begingroup\$ noise shouldn't be an issue for a fancy watch! And yes a high capacity single cell lithium battery going to a boost converter to get a stable 9V (so it's not too close to the 7V minimum) would be a good idea. \$\endgroup\$
    – KyranF
    Dec 13, 2014 at 15:31
  • \$\begingroup\$ (After some googling) What about boosting up to 5V and putting that to the arduino's 5V plain input? \$\endgroup\$
    – Mahkoe
    Dec 13, 2014 at 15:35

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Series chargers

1 cell chargers can't be used for multiple cells in series as their charge voltage won't be enough. I don't have experience with chargers designed to charge multiple cells in series, but I assume such charger would have a separate input for each cell's thermistor if present or at least its voltage: without some kind of load balance circuit you'll end up with different voltages across your cells, so you have to make sure none is particularly stressed at the time of charging - lithium batteries are dangerous if charged improperly.

Boost converters

The usual solution (mine anyway, used it in a product no later than last friday) is to use a boost DCDC converter: if you look up the definition, you'll see it's a converter that's similar to a pump: it increases the voltage on the output. However, this is at the expense of:

  1. Available current: the converter will only be able to handle a limited current. Although most of the time more current is better in terms of efficiency (see 2.), there will come a point when the components won't be able to dissipate enough and you won't get more out of them (or they'll heat up and burn out). If you have a particularly capable boost module, watch out for the current that it will draw on the input: even with ideal efficiency (see 2.), the input current will be higher than the output current.
  2. Battery life: Converters, just like any circuit, have a non unitary efficiency: they dissipate some power, which means for 1 unit of power out, you'll draw more than 1 unit of power on the input. The power dissipated will draw an additional current on the input, which decreases battery life. Is it proportional to the output power? If only! Converters have efficiency curves to describe the efficiency as a function of the output power. Now, boost converters are switching converters based on pulse width modulation: they mostly dissipate power at the time of transitions. So if you need less power out, at the same frequency the efficiency will drop. Some of them have a way to adapt the frequency as well depending on the load, those are called pulse frequency modulated (PFM) and have reasonably flat efficiency curves even at low loads.


A formula doesn't cost much: $$Power_{in}=Power_{dissipated}+Power_{out}$$ $$\Leftrightarrow V_{in}*I_{in}=\frac{V_{out}*I_{out}}{efficiency}$$ $$\Leftrightarrow I_{in}=\frac{V_{out}*I_{out}}{efficiency* V_{in}}$$ $$BOLbatterylife=\frac{capacity\times depthofdischarge}{I_{in}}$$ BOL states for beginning of life. The deeper the discharge, the more the capacity will drop with cycles. Here capacity is in Ah => battery life in hours, the rest is SI.


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Example of efficiency curves of a boost converter with and without PFM (source). enter image description here

Illustration of waveform of a PWM+PFM [Edit: actually it seems to be PFM only. PWM would modulate the width as well] boost converter output voltage before filtering (source).


I would suggest using a boost converter (you can buy plug and play modules) with pulse frequency modulation (as you'll certainly be using low currents if it's a watch) and a high efficiency curve, and outputting on the Vcc/5V input of the Arduino. Not the RAW because you'll end up unnecessarily losing power in the integrated regulator as well (even more, since it's a linear regulator that is made to dissipate the difference in power). Add additional filtering (called decoupling caps here) to be sure everything's smooth (switching converters are quite noisy) though. You'll still need a single cell charger though; most of the chargers I've seen around which enable simultaneous charging are doing nothing more than connect devices directly to the battery while it's charging, but I think it all depends on the power drawn. If the power draw is ten times less than the charging current, I reckon it's fine (anyone can confirm?).

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    \$\begingroup\$ Wow! Thank you for the detailed answer. This cleared up a lot of confusion on my end. Thank you! \$\endgroup\$
    – Mahkoe
    Dec 13, 2014 at 18:25

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