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TMDS (Transition Minimised Differential Signalling) is a nominally differential signalling specification used, for example, in DVI & HDMI.

Today though I was reading Brooks' Signal Integrity Issues, which defines differential signalling as a mode with two conductors, one carrying a signal and the other carrying an inverted copy of it - providing the return path - so that there is no return through ground.

Looking at the diagram of a TMDS tx/rx pair in the DVI spec (pg. 33) (copied below), it appears though that this condition is not met. The transmitter sinks or does not sink current on one or the other line. Due to configuration of the receiver there appears an equal and opposite voltage across each of the two termination resistors, but only one conductor at a time actually carries current, leaving the return path I presume to be the data[x]_gnd lines that are found on a typical DVI connector (signified by the third net in that schematic between the transmitter and receiver?).

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Is this assessment correct or have I missed something about how it operates?

According to Brooks' definition, is Transition Minimised Differential Signalling actually differential?

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  • \$\begingroup\$ The schematic you posted sure looks like differential signalling to me. The subtractor in the receiver is indeed taking in D and D' as it's inputs. The D' line is not free of current, it is connected to AVcc on the receiver end so is not an open circuit. You're just letting the switches on the transmitter end confuse you by thinking D' is open. \$\endgroup\$ – I. Wolfe Mar 18 '15 at 16:09
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TMDS is actually a current mode standard, so the current flowing (or not flowing) in each line represents the bit level. It is therefore not necessary to drive the line both high and low, only to pull it in one direction on the transmit side. The bus ends up having a voltage swing of significantly less than 1 volt, making it less likely to generate or receive interference.

Now, in this case there is a DC return path through the shield. This doesn't work with a voltage mode standard as the current will be time-varying. Just look at how the transmitter is configured - a constant current source that is switched over to one side of the pair or the other. The current through the source is constant, and it is always connected to the shield, so that current will be DC. The idea is to avoid a high frequency return path through ground.

On this circuit, I believe you can do a common-mode/differential analysis that assumes the switch is in each position for 1/2 of the time and get what appears to be a differential return current in the opposing pair.

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That image is wrong as it doesn't show internal pull up resistors in the driver. The right schematic is below, you can see that current flow in both pair conductors with opposite directions, as it happens in LVDS for example. With split termination is exactly the same behavior.

ac coupled cml driver

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Thanks user1898340. I like that image for conceptualising that type of transmitter a lot! The image in my original question is correct though (at least, it is a valid schematic and so the original question about it stands) - its direct from the DVI spec (glenwing.github.io/docs/DVI-1.0.pdf, page 33). Further, in practice I've had to add pull-ups with an external power supply to scope a TMDS transmitter. \$\endgroup\$ – sebf Jul 30 '18 at 22:33
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The switch in the transmitter current source must include ground positions to make the current flow differential. At high frequencies current flow follows the path of least inductance. so for a high, current flows from 1 to 3 and for a Low, current flows from 4 to 2 in the attached schematic.

There is no signal current flowing through the ground wire or shield.

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    \$\begingroup\$ You don't need to sign your name, SE does that for you. Personal info should go on your profile page. Thanks \$\endgroup\$ – laptop2d Jan 13 '17 at 17:57

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