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Ideally I should have a bench supply so I don't have to keep buying 9v batteries. I've taken a micro atx psu out of a pc I have. It has a 24 pin ATX connector. I'm not going to take apart the psu itself. I'm going to cut off one of the molex connectors then wire them to binding post. I was wondering would it be possible to use an ATiny44 (10bit ADC) to measure voltages up to 30volts with reasonable accuracy. I'm also going to use an LCD display to show the voltage of the variable supply.

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Yes - a 10 bit ADC can be used to measure the voltage, with suitable front end scaling ! :-). A 10 bit ADC has a nominal range of 2^10 = 1024 steps or 30V/1024 = 29 mV/step.

You could make this 25 mV/step for a 25.6V max reading or 50 mV/step for a 51.2V max reading. You don't HAVE to use all the range. At 50 mV/bit you can probably read to an accuracy of about 0.1V with due care in construction.

You could easily have the meter set to dual ranges so you can measure with more accuracy at low voltages. Say a low range of 0 - 5.12V with 5 mV steps, or 10.24V max with 10 mV steps. As before best achievable actual accuracy is liable to be about double the step size. Or more than 2 ranges if desired.

Don't cut the connector off - find a socket to suit - then you can change supplies if needed.

You'll need to find how to start the supply - join pins 14 & 15 with a link etc. GET THE RIGHT PINS. Pinout and details here. Note their comment on need for a load

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Above basic diagram of power on connection from here

You may need a minimum 5V load to get the supply to regulate well. This was true for older supplies and is still true for many newer supplies.

You mention a 30V output, which is not available from a standard ATX supply. This can be achieved by modifying an ATX supply. I won't start to discuss that here. It can be discussed in more detail if of interest. There will be numerous web pages that describe how.

Here are two examples of ATX supplies modified for variable voltage. YMMV - I haven't checked these in any detail. Many more on web.

Example 1

Example 2

The following diagram is from Example 1 above.

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Achieving higher resolution by measuring relative to an intermediate reference voltage.

It has been suggested that you can achieve even more accuracy (or resolution) by measuring the voltage relative to an offset voltage. eg you could read 30v +- 5 or similar.

This is true, but there is a major "gotcha".

By adding a "pedestal" you are effectively building an ADC with more bits. And, any voltage that you use as a reference point has to be accurate to as many bits as the effective number of bits that you are trying to achieve with the new system.

eg Imagine you decide to measure a range of 0-28 volts. If you step the reference voltage in 1/4 of Vmax steps (0, 7, 14, 21V) you can get 0-7, 7-14, 14-21 and 21-28 V ranges, each with 4 x the resolution you'd get using the same ADC to measure 0-28 Volts. You are effectively adding 2 bits to the ADC resolution.

BUT each step of voltage has to be accurate to at least 10+2 = 12 bits of accuracy (preferably a bit or 2 more). If the voltage reference steps are NOT accurate to say 12 bits then you are measuring 10 bits of resolution relative to a semi random number and the answer will be another semi random number. GIGO applies.

eg 0-7 volts with 10 bits gives 7/1024 = 6.8 mV per bit. The processor can look after the fractional mVs and probably a display that steps by 10 mV steps will be fine. However, if you want to measure from 21 to 28 V with 10 mV resolution then the 21 V reference should be at least 21.00 V. ie accurate to 10 mV and preferably somewhat better. Say about 21.000 +/- 2.5 mV. If the 21V reference is in fact 21.023 V then when you report a Voltage as 26.840V it will really be 0.023V lower (as the reference is 0.023V too high) for a true voltage of about 26.82V. If you don't think that reading 26.84 when it should read 26.82 is important then you didn't need the extra bits that we have been trying to attain and the while exercise is not only a waste of effort but also misleads people into thinking that they have accuracies that are not present.

Accuracies better tha 0.1% or 1 part in 1000 are achieved only with design, planning, and substantial care and attention to detail.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ +! Even more accurate if you offset the voltage to read 30v +- 5 or something. \$\endgroup\$ – kenny Jul 28 '11 at 23:45
  • \$\begingroup\$ 1. Yes. 2. But ... :-). - See addition to answer. \$\endgroup\$ – Russell McMahon Jul 29 '11 at 5:20

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