# Basic Circuits Problem Hey guys I'm new here and just need some help with a problem for my EE class. I need to find the maximum power that can be delivered to the variable resistor R.

If you could walk me through the steps of finding R-thevenin and what not in order to get to the final answer that would be extremely helpful.

Thank you.

Asking for help with homework questions here is fine, but you need to show more effort. What have you tried so far?

Sometimes a good first step is to redraw the circuit. Try putting R on the right and all the other resistors on the left. Then remove R. Now you have something that's shaped a bit more like a Thevenin equivalent. Show us your work for calculating the open-circuit voltage and the equivalent resistance, and we can offer more help if needed.

EDIT: You've correctly figured out that the Thevenin resistance is 10.83 ohms by combining resistors in series and parallel. The next step is to find the open-circuit voltage. When you've found Thevenin equivalents before, one end of your load was probably connected to ground (the negative end of the voltage source). That meant you could solve the problem by finding the open-circuit voltage at only one output terminal. But in this problem, you need to find the open-circuit voltages at both terminals, then subtract them to get the equivalent voltage difference.

With R removed, the $10\Omega/20\Omega$ branch and the $25\Omega/5\Omega$ branch are independently in parallel with the voltage source, and are thus easier to work with.

Let me know what you make of that I'll post an update.

EDIT 2: You've correctly found that the Thevenin equivalent voltage is 30 V. You also know that for maximum power transfer, your load resistance must equal your source resistance. The easiest way to calculate that power is by using the Thevenin equivalent circuit: simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

Now it's straightforward:

$$V_R = V_{th} \frac {R} {R_{th} + R} = \frac 1 2 (30\ \mathrm V) = 15\ \mathrm V$$

$$P_R = \frac {V_R^2} {R} = \frac {(15\ \mathrm V)^2} {10.83\ \Omega} = 20.78\ \mathrm W$$

A DC parameter sweep from CircuitLab confirms the result: If you really want to use nodal analysis, you can. This is going to get a bit hairy, so I'll redraw the circuit and label the nodes: simulate this circuit

We have two nodes with unknown voltages, so we'll need two nodal equations. I'll treat all currents as flowing outward from the node.

$$\frac {V_A - 60\ \mathrm V} {10\ \Omega} + \frac {V_A} {20\ \Omega} + \frac {V_A - V_B} {10.83\ \Omega} = 0$$

$$\frac {V_B - 60\ \mathrm V} {25\ \Omega} + \frac {V_B} {5\ \Omega} + \frac {V_B - V_A} {10.83\ \Omega} = 0$$

We could solve these by hand or with matrix algebra, but I strongly, strongly recommend that you use a computer algebra system, because in another class or two you'll be doing this again, only with complex numbers. High-end graphing calculators and Wolfram Alpha are two options. Here's a Wolfram Alpha link. The answers it gives are:

$$V_A = 30.77\ \mathrm V$$ $$V_B = 15.77\ \mathrm V$$

This is very close to what you got, but not quite. I suspect a rounding error. Regardless, we can now calculate the voltage across the resistor, which is equal to half the Thevenin voltage, as expected. That's enough to give the power.

$$V_R = V_A - V_B = 15\ \mathrm V$$ $$P_R = \frac {V_R^2} {R} = \frac {(15\ \mathrm V)^2} {10.83\ \Omega} = 20.78\ \mathrm W$$

Your individual voltages were off by less than half a percent, but the errors added and multiplied to give an error of ~2.5% for the power. Try adding another significant digit next time. :-)

• My understanding is to find the Req from the perspective of the open circuit, which in this case would give the 10||20 in series with the 25||5, and thus a Req of 10.832 ohms. Then, however, I am confused as to how to find the voltage across the open circuit. – Ryan Kirkpatrick Aug 17 '15 at 22:47
• @RyanKirkpatrick I updated my answer. – Adam Haun Aug 18 '15 at 2:27
• Both branches will have a 60 volt drop, using voltage divider I get a voltage of 40v at the node in between the 10 and 20, and 10v at the node between the 25 and 5. Thus our open-circuit voltage will be 30 volts. This all I understood how to do, but here's where I really get stuck. How to find the current and voltage through the load once we put it back in. I know the load must have a resistance of 10.83 ohms to maximize power, however I just don't know how to analyze the circuit once we do put it back in. – Ryan Kirkpatrick Aug 18 '15 at 21:43
• Realized a simple nodal analysis will give me some results. Analysis gave me a voltage of 30.89v between the 10/20 and 15.7v between 25/5. So the voltage across the load will be 15.19v. Ohm's law says current through the load will be 1.4A. Power = v*i, so max power would be 21.31 watts. However the answer my professor gives is 20.77 watts. Awfully close, but not quite close enough :(. Checked my work twice. – Ryan Kirkpatrick Aug 18 '15 at 22:07
• Wow thank you so much for all of the detailed analysis. I don't why I used nodal analysis when I already had the Thenevin equivalent. I guess that's why I'm in the class! My final is tomorrow, thank you for your help, it will surely benefit me. – Ryan Kirkpatrick Aug 19 '15 at 0:13