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(Note: I am in the UK so the terms 'line' and 'neutral' refer to the two live mains conductors)

I am trying to establish a list of safety issues which I should be aware of if I decide to introduce a resistive path between either of the live mains conductors and earth in a Class I device, or to decide whether I should avoid the idea completely!

The reason for this is that I am working on a circuit which performs a number of diagnostic measurements on the mains supply to be built into a device (earth resistance, correct line/neutral polarity and AC voltage), the circuit will disconnect the supply in case of a fault. One idea for the circuit involves resistive paths between both live conductors and earth (other versions use capacitive sensing but have a number of issues) - see 'Scenario 1' in the image below for a simplified schematic. I can also think of other situations where someone might consider using a resistor between a live conductor and earth - for instance to ensure Y-capacitors in a CM filter are drained ('Scenario 2' below) - so I'm interested in getting to the bottom of the general issue here of allowing a DC conduction path between the live conductors and earth.

Schematic

The earth in the device is bonded to the chassis and appears on a number of external conductors. I was initially against the idea of using a resistor between live conductors and earth as this compormises galvanic isolation, however as I thought about it more I started to sway towards the opinion that this is possible if done carefully. I have not found any sources which deal specifically with this issue, however indirectly by reading about electrical safety testing and regulations as well as using some common sense I have compiled a list of requirements, which, if met, might make this acceptable:

  • The resistance should be sufficiently high to minimise leakage current - most obviously so as not to trip the RCD (the threshold in the UK is 30 mA), however a much more restricting constraint is an insulation test: for instance, if I understand correctly during a PAT test 500V DC is applied between the live and earth connectors, and the measured insulation resistance must not be below 1 MOhm. From this follows that the total resistance of the resistive path must be at least 1 MOhm plus a safety margin (perhaps 2 MOhm?)
  • The components in the resistive path must be of a sufficient power rating to handle both dissipation under normal use and dissipation during an insulation test such as above.
  • The resistive path should not introduce a risk of voltage spikes on the live conductors reaching the earth conductor, so appropriate transient voltage suppression should be used before the resistive path and/or incorporated into it. In my circuit as drawn in 'Scenario 1', I would use higher-voltage transient suppression between the live conductors and earth, as well as lower-voltage transient suppression between the sense inputs and earth.
  • The physical construction of all resistors should be such that clearance and creepage requirements between live conductors and earth are met (e.g. use a through-hole resistor where the distance between leads is greater than 5 mm).

After coming up with this list, I'm still not confident that this is a good idea, partly because I have never seen this done - so the question is have I missed anything, or is there any other reason why resistors between live conductors and earth should be avoided?

Of course I'm aware that insulators always have finite resistance and Y-capacitors have a leakage resistance which in this context is theoretically identical to having very high-valued parallel resistors, but these resistances are much higher than the megaohm range considered here!

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Legal limit on earth leakage current is 5mA or 1mA in the UK, depending on the appliance's class. \$\endgroup\$
    – Luna
    Commented Aug 27, 2015 at 15:58
  • \$\begingroup\$ According to the 16th edition wiring regulations, "Maximum permitted leakage currents are listed in Appendix L of the 2nd Edition of Guidance Note 1, and vary from 0.25 mA for Glass II appliances to 3.5mA for information technology equipment (see {7.8.2})". 7.8.3 mentions: "Any piece of equipment having a leakage current exceeding 3.5 mA must be fitted with a label adjacent to the primary power connection which reads:- "HIGH LEAKAGE CURRENT earth connection essential before connecting the supply"" \$\endgroup\$
    – Luna
    Commented Aug 27, 2015 at 16:03
  • \$\begingroup\$ Thanks - just to be clear the '30 mA' figure I mentioned in the first bullet point is purely a reference to the RCD trip limit, the >= 1MOhm insulation resistance requirement I mentioned does in fact lead to <= 0.24 mA at 240V AC, which is OK for not only Class I but also Class II. \$\endgroup\$
    – ew218
    Commented Aug 27, 2015 at 16:11
  • \$\begingroup\$ The Earth is used as safety conductor, therfore no current shall be applied at any time. Second thing is that earth conductor and neatrall are binded together in the electric cabinet before RCD (if there's any). There is not clear why you need this, maybe with a description of your test device you could get a better help. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Aug 27, 2015 at 16:24
  • \$\begingroup\$ @MarkoBuršič It's normal to have some small earth leakage due to EMI filtering capacitors in power supplies. \$\endgroup\$
    – Luna
    Commented Aug 27, 2015 at 16:31

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(This answer refers to UK regulations, as the questioner is in the UK.)

Given 2MOhm resistance as discussed in your question, earth leakage current would be acceptable at 0.1mA.

Another point to consider is that the class-Y/class-X capacitors which are typically used for RFI suppression are put through safety testing, and are required to fail open circuit. The same may not be true of the resistors you choose to use.

According to the 16th edition wiring regulations, there is a limit on earth leakage current for class 1 appliances:

5.9.3

Maximum permitted leakage currents are listed in Appendix L of the 2nd Edition of Guidance Note 1, and vary from 0.25 mA for Glass II appliances to 3.5mA for information technology equipment (see {7.8.2})

Appliances with higher leakage must have warning labels and a high integrity earth connection.

7.8.2

Any piece of equipment having a leakage current exceeding 3.5 mA must be fitted with a label adjacent to the primary power connection which reads:-

HIGH LEAKAGE CURRENT
earth connection essential before connecting the supply

5.9.3
7.8.2

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  • \$\begingroup\$ note: It seems likely that there should be some regulation preventing a connection between live and earth with bog-standard resistors which have a much higher chance of failing short-circuit than Y-rated capacitors would... but I don't know what that regulation is, so haven't mentioned it in the answer if it does exist. \$\endgroup\$
    – Luna
    Commented Aug 27, 2015 at 16:32
  • \$\begingroup\$ Thanks - I had it in mind to look for failure characteristics of the resistors before selecting the part. In the worst case I will use fusible resistors (which are typically low-valued) in series with the network for added protection. I'll accept this as an answer if nobody presents any conflicting information... \$\endgroup\$
    – ew218
    Commented Aug 27, 2015 at 16:56
  • \$\begingroup\$ BS7671 is an installation standard, not an equipment standard, so you wouldn't expect to find detailed considerations of equipment internals in it. Afaict the usual approach to resistor reliability is to run 2 or more resistors of similar value in series, so if one of them shorts your leakage doesn't rise so dramatically (this doesn't work so well with capacitors, hence the existance of special safety capacitors) \$\endgroup\$ Commented Jan 22, 2022 at 1:24

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