# Strange result ADC(Arduino Micro) Thermistor KTY 10-6

Where's the error in the following circuit/code ?

Some time ago i got various sensors . One of those was the kty 10-6 (3 pieces). At the beginning i could not find any datasheet or examples about this temperature sensor. So i got an LM35 which was very simple to setup as it is linear. Now after various months i finally found the proper datasheet and the Mathematical equation to get the proper resistor values.

KTY 10-6 (this is the datasheet link)

Circuit

I found out that it is similar to the kty81-210

 (Vcc 5+)--+-->2.7k--+-->kty81-110-->(GND)
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As i have no 2.7k Ω resistor i used a 2200 ohm resistor.

the capacitor is 100nf i think: IJ63 is on top of the enclosure.correct? simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

Code

As this thermistor is not linear and i always wanted to use the proper mathematical formula to calculate the temperature, this is the best solution. Based on what i read in the kty10-6 datasheet i changed some values like the resistor and the beta(a) value. the alpha(b) .00788 seems to be the same in both sensors.

float resistor = 2200; // changed
float ukty = 5*temp/1023.0;
float a = 0.00001937*1000; // changed
float b = 0.00788*1000;
float c = 1000-resistor*ukty/(5-ukty);
float delta = b * b - 4 * a * c;
float delta1 = sqrt (delta);
float x2 =(-b + delta1)/(2 * a);
float temp1 = x2 + 25 ;


Is the calculation correct?

I ask beacuse even if its really hot these days .. i don't think there are 132-135°Celsius.The formula is for celsius.

Even if i don't use this formula but use other simpler calculations (linear) i always get over 130-140°Celsius

Notes

If i touch the sensor the reading increases... as expected.

I tested on all analog pins.

I use the arduino micro.

I use it with a i2cLCD.

It's usb powered.

Nothing else is connected.

If i measure the resistor on the proto board when everything is turned off i read it as 1200ohm... the cap?

Why do i get 120 to 140 as a temperature value?

Optional

I just closed a post on electronics stack wich describes how to increase the thermistors resolution with resistors. found it

If someone knows how to change my circuit to read temperatures from -10/-20 to +40/+50 i would be very happy. this would duplicate the resolution. i think in my zone the temperatures will never go lower than -20 or higher than +50 ° Celsius.

I buyed 3 of those, i know they are cheap. I know about the nice DS##### Temp sensor which is perfect for the microcontrollers. But i want to get this one to work also.

• Couldn't find any info - strange. I put Thermistor KTY 10-6 and got this straight away pollin.de/shop/downloads/D180003B.PDF – JIm Dearden Sep 3 '15 at 17:31
• when i started using microcontyrollers... some months ago i searched for something like KIT 10 ... as the text on those temperature sensors are very degraded. anyway yeah i found it... it's an infineon... i also added the link in the post.its the first link just to be shure that if someone reads this he has easy access to it. – cocco Sep 3 '15 at 17:35
• appart from that nice link , you have any ideas what could i have done wrong? i'm not an electronical enginer. – cocco Sep 3 '15 at 17:36
• Added "this is the datasheet link" to the post if someone else misses it – cocco Sep 3 '15 at 17:42
• Looking at the resistance at 25 degrees you should get a resistance of about 2000 ohm giving about 2.4V across the sensor. A quick check with a voltmeter should verify this. This should produce a reading of about 490 in the adc. Plug this value into your calculation and MANUALLY work through your program (pencil and paper). What value of temperature does it give ? (correct answer should be around 25) - If it doesn't then your formula/program is wrong – JIm Dearden Sep 3 '15 at 17:44

We know that analog readings will vary between 0 (=0V) and 1023 (5V).

First step is to convert the reading of the analog value (of voltage) into an actual resistance value. Suggested new program (haven't tested this so comments/corrections welcome)

float resistorfixed = 2200;

// calculate sensor resistance value (Rkty)

float Rkty = (resistorfixed * temp) / (1023 - temp);

// From the data sheet the value of the resistance of the sensor
// @ 25 degrees is 2000 +/- 20 ohmsStart with calculating the measured
// resistance.

float R25 = 2000;

// We are also given alpha and beta

float alpha = 7.88 / 1000;
float beta  = 1.937 / 10000;

// Now we need to calculate the temperature factor (KayTee)

float KayTee = Rkty / R25;

// We now have all the information to calculate the actual temperature
// (AcT)

float AcT = 25 + ((sqrt((alpha * alpha) - (4 * beta) + (4 * beta * KayTee)) - alpha) / (2 * beta));

// Just hope I've got my brackets is the correct place!