0
\$\begingroup\$

I have a battery (3v coin cell) powered device with a digital input to a microcontroller. There is a pull down on the input of 10k.

It is connected to a switch outdoors which, when off, could have a resistance of 5k when its raining. The 5k resistance is enough for the microcontroller to think the switch is on.

How can I reduce the sensitivity of the input without reducing the pull down resistor. I could make it 1k but then if it rains it would mean it always pulls 0.5 mA which depletes the battery in about 2 weeks. Is there a way to make the input less sensitive without reducing the pulldown resistor?

\$\endgroup\$
  • 1
    \$\begingroup\$ Make the switch waterproof? \$\endgroup\$ – PlasmaHH Dec 13 '15 at 10:44
  • 1
    \$\begingroup\$ this, or put some kohms in series with the switch. that might be a little funny but actually work \$\endgroup\$ – Vladimir Cravero Dec 13 '15 at 10:45
  • \$\begingroup\$ @PlasmaHH: it is a doorbell switch, I thought that was waterproof enough... \$\endgroup\$ – rve Dec 17 '15 at 18:00
2
\$\begingroup\$

(1) You could move the threshold point nearer to the +ve rail so that a 5k input to positive resistance is not seen as a high level. An easy way to do this would be to use a comparator to set the trigger level.

The comparator MUST be able to accommodate Vin = +ve rail in its specification. So eg 5k up and 10k down = 3V x 5/(5+10) = 2V in with a 3V system.
You can make the system ratiometric so that both the comparator reference divider and the switch are both fed from the battery voltage so that as the battery voltage falls the ratio between trigger point and measured input is the same.

Standby current worst case above at 3V is 3V/(5k+10k)= 0.2 mA.
That is better than 0.5 mA but still too high.
The pull down could be altered to say 47K so that when switch leakage is 5K the in voltage is 47k/(5k+ 47k) = 90% of supply. Setting the threshold at say 95% of supply allows correct switching. Switch on resistance then needs to be < 2.47k which should be easily met.

(2) The microcontroller could poll the switch at a rate fast enough to ensure switch presses are not missed - say 100 mS period or less. A pull down could be applied only just before reading. Between polls the pin can be allowed to be pulled high by the switch with perhaps an external 100k pullup as well.

Or a capacitor could be added to the pin and used to measure R_switch by setting the pint to output, driving the port pin low, setting it to input and measuring how long it takes to rise again.

\$\endgroup\$
  • \$\begingroup\$ I think I'm going to add a comparator and find a way to get mains power to it so the battery won't be an issue anymore. Thanks! \$\endgroup\$ – rve Dec 17 '15 at 17:59

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service, privacy policy and cookie policy

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.