# Which is the objective of an Base-emitter resistor?

Can someone explain me the purpose of the resistor R2? If I remove R2, the circuit will perform the same result, won't it? simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

• No it won't. If you remove R1 and R2 the base is floating. OK, you short R1, then Vbe = ?? V so now calculate how much current will flow. Now compare that to R1 = 1 k ohm. – Bimpelrekkie Feb 3 '16 at 15:08
• You drew the circuit so I ask you - why did you put R2 in that circuit? – Andy aka Feb 3 '16 at 15:11
• My guess is that he recreated a portion of some circuit in order to ask about it. – jms Feb 3 '16 at 15:19
• In the given situation where there is 2.8 V DC applied on the left of the circuit, R2 being there or not makes almost no difference. But if the 2.8 V is not a given and the node is floating, R2 can make a difference. – Bimpelrekkie Feb 3 '16 at 15:26
• @ferdepe If the signal source can float such as if it comes from a microcontroller pin that floats on power-up, R2 would be there to hold Q1 off until the signal can be configured by the microcontroller initialization code. – Tut Feb 3 '16 at 15:44

## 4 Answers

R2 is used to prevent a floating base. It gives it a defined state, in case the node labeled 2.8V isn't connected. It's a weak pull-down resistor. A floating pin, not pulled to a known state, will act like a mini-antenna, and can float high or low many times and turn the transistor on and off at random.

If that node is driven all the time, either high or low, then R2 is superfluous and can be removed. If the node is connected to for example a microcontroller gpio, that can go High-Impedence/Input (likely at start-up), then R2 keeps the transistor off until the microcontroller goes into output mode.

If the transistor is actually a Mosfet, then R2 is a small drain resistor. Mosfets have a capacitance that may keep it on, if not drained.

Many transistors allow a small amount of leakage current from the collector to the base. If nothing were connected to the base of the transistor, that current could bias the base-emitter junction to 0.7 volts and then get amplified by the transistor, such that the total amount of leakage current sunk to ground would be the emitter-base leakage current multiplied by the transistor's current gain.

Adding R2 provides an alternative path for collector-base leakage; if R2 is small enough that the voltage across it stays below 0.7 volts, current that flows through R2 will still represent leakage from the collector to ground, but it won't be amplified.

In some applications, the amount of leakage current--even amplified--may be small enough not to be objectionable. Adding R2, however, will often cut the leakage current by more than an order of magnitude.

With those nodes at those voltages, you are correct, R2 makes very little difference to how hard Q1 is turned on.

If you replace the R1 drive with 3uA (for instance) instead of 2.8v, the performance is very different.

As an exercise for you, calculate the current required into R1 to

a) start the transistor conducting
b) bring the collector voltage (Vo) down to 1 volt (assuming a current gain of 100)

with R2 present, and with R2 omitted.

• Sorry because I haven't indicated that the circuit purpouse it to works in saturation... @Neil_UK – ferdepe Feb 3 '16 at 19:24

R2 at 100K does not affect the circuit to any significance as Neil UK has stated.In fact it could be 10K and things would be fine. R2 does provide a useful function of pull down and should be left in circuit.Consider a high gain transistor and /or a leaky pcb or even mains pickup which is generally electrostatic and therefore of a high impedence nature.