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I have a project that I have to choose a touch screen for. I have done some studies on the different type of touchscreens. I would like the screen to be:

  1. Multi-touch capable: So a resistive touchscreen doesn't work. I need it to support multitouch because users will most likely "write" on the touchscreen. The screen needs to be able to detect the difference between the palm and the finger. (Palm rejection)
  2. Any input devices will work: So a capacitive touchscreen won't work because it won't interact with gloved hands or a regular ballpoint pen.

As far as I can tell, there's still no technology out there that can satisfy both criteria. But maybe I'm missing something. Or maybe there're some software workarounds to make either a resistive or a capacitive touchscreen to work.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Is wrong that a capacitive touchsreen cannot work with gloves or Ballpoint.Take an example from Samsung phones where you could activate a function which increses the sensibility. \$\endgroup\$ – Stefan Merfu Jul 21 '16 at 23:25
  • \$\begingroup\$ That might very well be the case. But it doesn't work with my phone (Lumia 650). Like I said, there might be a software workaround to it, but is it just simply amplifying the signal? If that was the case, I would have assumed all the phones would have implemented it. \$\endgroup\$ – Lost in Knowledge Jul 22 '16 at 0:07
  • \$\begingroup\$ @LostinKnowledge Capacitive touch only works with conductive materials. \$\endgroup\$ – Bradman175 Jul 22 '16 at 0:10
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Bradman175 That's what I thought. Hence the original question. Is there a type of touchscreen that works with all materials and support multi-touch? \$\endgroup\$ – Lost in Knowledge Jul 22 '16 at 12:09
  • \$\begingroup\$ @LostinKnowledge do you require the touchscreen to work with multiple non-conductive objects? \$\endgroup\$ – Bradman175 Jul 22 '16 at 12:20
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Sounds like you want an infrared touch screen. The concept is pretty simple - a grid of IR emitters and receivers in the X and Y directions detect breaks in light corresponding to a touch (pictured below)

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Because it doesn't work on contact electrical phenomena, you can use pretty much anything to break the beams including a gloved hand, a pen, your cat's paw (cat willing, of course), etc. Moreover, it's inherently multi-touch capable.

Infrared-based touch screens are also neat because the infrared sensor frame and screen can be discrete, so if the screen is damaged, you only need to replace it and not the touch module (and vice-versa).

Now, as to whether or not this is a desirable, feasible, or cost-effective solution is arguable, but if your requirements are rigid and you absolutely need a touch screen, then it may be your only turn-key option.

An alternative to the grid-based IR touch screen is one which uses "Frustrated Total Internal Reflection" whereby infrared light is projected within the display itself and "captured" via total internal reflection. A touch (or multiple touches) on the screen causes light to scatter from within the screen to a detector that captures the touches. This schema is depicted below:

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The concept is simple enough that there exist a number of guides explaining how to build your own multi-touch display at a relatively low cost. For example, the source of the images above links to a wiki with instructions on building your own, and a cursory search on Instructables turns up 4 projects with instructions. Handling things like palm detection, gestures, etc., becomes primarily a software and image processing problem at that point.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ And how about the multitouch factor? If I put a hollow cylinder flat onto the screen and try to touch the screen from the inside, will it detect my touches? It's not true multitouch. I may as well use a resistive touch screen being more compact. \$\endgroup\$ – Bradman175 Jul 22 '16 at 13:23
  • \$\begingroup\$ The screen is multi-touch capable, but you're correct, that would be a scenario in which it wouldn't work. Seems like a pretty fringe case, though, and also not one mentioned in the original question. \$\endgroup\$ – Cheibriados Jul 22 '16 at 13:30
  • \$\begingroup\$ Thank you for the IR screen suggestion. I will give it a shot. \$\endgroup\$ – Lost in Knowledge Jul 26 '16 at 20:13
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Unfortunately I can't tell you the names or what specific types of touch screen would suit your purpose, but I can show you some ideas as to how to "invent" a touchscreen that will suit your needs.

Option 1

Have you considered something like this? http://www.dmccoltd.com/english/museum/touchscreens/technologies/Matrix.aspenter image description here

The only problem is that there will be ghost touches, which makes it no better than a normal resistive touch screen. One way to solve this is to have one sheet as the anode (by using a specific material) and the other sheet as the cathode (using another specific material) so it will act like this:

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Though I don't believe technology is advanced enough to do that without the touchscreen look fully transparent to the naked eye.

Option 2

In a normal resistive touch screen, there is the outside layer which is scratch resistant. Stuck right beneath that is a conductive and transparent material which is attached to one wire that goes into the touch driver controller. Then there is the small air gap.

Now the following is the part that differs from a normal resistive touch screen.

Instead of having an equally resistive (and transparent) surface connected by many wires around it (that goes into the touch driver controller) underneath the air gap, you have a normal capacitive touch screen instead (like a normal smartphone and connected to the touch screen driver). And bingo you solved the conductive-touch-only barrier.

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