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Can I solder the components together? I just started to learn and I don't have a circuit board. enter image description here

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  • \$\begingroup\$ I'm sorry for the vague question. Yes mean all of those. What I want is for example solder the iron sticks of the transistor and resistor together. \$\endgroup\$
    – shax11
    Commented Jul 28, 2016 at 0:59
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    \$\begingroup\$ Yes you can do that. As long as the same connections are made it's fine. \$\endgroup\$
    – zack1544
    Commented Jul 28, 2016 at 1:00
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    \$\begingroup\$ "Leads" (long e sound), not iron sticks. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Jul 28, 2016 at 1:13
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    \$\begingroup\$ The "arduino" in your question is a circuit board. Also, using one to provide power to a motor, or using the same 5v supply the Arduino uses to power a motor can be a problematic, depending on the motor. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Jul 28, 2016 at 1:20
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    \$\begingroup\$ This is a really interesting thread, but your best bet is to spend a few dollars on a bread board at a local electronics shop for a few bucks. Allows for much easier prototyping, and is great for any hobbyist. :) That TV is nuts though. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Jul 28, 2016 at 4:54

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You can literally solder components together, i.e. one end of the resistor to the base of the transistor etc. without using a prototype board, as long as you are careful not to let any leads short together. Unlike most cases, where you would twist wires together for mechanical strength, when prototyping this way you generally want the solder to hold the leads together so it is easier to later unsolder and reuse the components again.

Instead of soldering, you can also just clip leads together using alligator-clip jumpers. Either would work for a circuit of the complexity in your question. Much more complicated, and you will want to get a solderless breadboard (however, see below!).

You can probably stick the other end of the resistor directly into the socket of the Arduino. You will need to get some hookup wire for the ground and +5V leads; 22-guage solid is probably the best size.

Before PCBs were common, consumer electronics were all hand-wired. Components with leads were soldered together using terminal strips, like the one at the top of the picture.

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This is the chassis of a 1948 Motorola Golden View 7" television set.

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    \$\begingroup\$ I think that television set really explains why sane people would want to put components on a circuit board. \$\endgroup\$
    – Bradman175
    Commented Jul 28, 2016 at 2:09
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    \$\begingroup\$ @Bradman175 Not to mention, why thumping the TV used to make it work sometimes… \$\endgroup\$
    – user39382
    Commented Jul 28, 2016 at 2:31
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    \$\begingroup\$ I miss those days of wax capacitors and selenium diodes and flammable resistors. \$\endgroup\$
    – user105652
    Commented Jul 28, 2016 at 3:14
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    \$\begingroup\$ +1 for sacrificing the family TV to answer a stackexchange Q, I hope you got it back together in time for the Simpsons ;-). \$\endgroup\$ Commented Jul 28, 2016 at 10:12
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    \$\begingroup\$ In the days of TV's like the one shown here it was common to prototype circuits by screwing the components to a board (such as an actual bread board). Tube sockets would be mounted on standoffs. Small resisters and capacitors would be mounted either on the tube sockets or on terminal strips. This is still a useful technique if your project uses full-size discrete components. If anybody wants to see such a breadboarded project, I have some in the attic and can take pictures. \$\endgroup\$
    – David42
    Commented Jul 28, 2016 at 16:01
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No, a pcb is not necessary. Many people practice Deadbug style circuit soldering. It's just not all ways professional looking or easy to duplicate in mass production (i.e. automation. It's man hour intensive). It's mostly limited to hobbyists, one off projects or prototyping/testing designs prior to a finalized version.

An example with SMT components:

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An example with Through Hole components, casted in resin, for aesthetics reasons:

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    \$\begingroup\$ Looks pretty close to a short in the top left dunnit \$\endgroup\$ Commented Jul 28, 2016 at 9:44
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    \$\begingroup\$ I've seen some dead-bug designs in mass-produced devices. The "keys" (value-holding devices) used at a local gaming center used a 24LC00-style EEPROM in a DIP8 package with the pins folded under. The side of the chip with pins 5-8 was exposed, and everything else was buried in plastic. A bent wire under the chip (embedded in the plastic) connected pins 1-4 and 7 (the exposed pins were VDD, SCL, SDA, and WP; since WP was connected to A0, A1, A2, and VSS, it could be used as the ground connection). \$\endgroup\$
    – supercat
    Commented Jul 28, 2016 at 15:36
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    \$\begingroup\$ @LightnessRacesinOrbit difficult to tell from a single photo. There could be plenty of clearance in a direction where we can't see it. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Jul 28, 2016 at 16:54
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    \$\begingroup\$ Deadbug can be VERY effective for high speed circuits - in which case you would put the whole thing on top of a ground plane (usually a virgin PCB). I learnt this from the Venerable Jim Williams - see his awesome Application Note 47, page 27 onwards ("breadboarding"). \$\endgroup\$
    – Floris
    Commented Jul 28, 2016 at 19:05
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    \$\begingroup\$ @ChrisStratton should I flip the pictures upside down? \$\endgroup\$
    – Passerby
    Commented Jul 29, 2016 at 5:36
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Can I [just] solder the components together?

Sure, the process is called dead-bugging (wikipedia.) I remember an article on hack-a-day, called volumetric circuits, where someone created some software to help design a circuit and create an assembly plan.

It should be noted that printed circuit boards (PCBs) have other advantages, and design concerns. ex:

  • FR4 - flame retardant type 4 is used as a PCB substrate It has favorable strength, insulating and fire resistant properties
  • Better control over noise and other transient behaviors/phenomenon through design features such as ground planes, shielding and element placement (to name a few.)
  • Tractable designs for RF (radio frequency) and beyond (GHZ, etc); design constraints get stronger as the frequency of operation increases.

As long as the circuit you are building/designing/whatever has wide enough design tolerances to be dead-bugged, it should work. Even a bare micro-controller like the ATMEGA could be dead-bugged into a working Arduino clone!

The actual practicality of dead-bugging is rather limited. A breadboard for prototyping, or proto-board for permanent/semi-permanent circuits would generally be more productive and useful than dead-bugging; dead-bugging can be useful in a pinch. The ability to repair/disassemble a circuit is, however, not to be underestimated; hence the saying "don't build something you can't take apart."

n.b. sometimes because of design constrains some components are 'stacked' even on a PCB, ex. surface mount resistor soldered on-top of surface mount capacitor to reduce parasitic capacitance where it would be a significant fraction (10%+) of the caps capacitance.

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    – Bradman175
    Commented Jul 28, 2016 at 3:00
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    \$\begingroup\$ Your item about FR4 seems to mention benefits as a choice of material for boards, not benefits of having a board. Air is even more insulating (see: isolation slots) and doesn't catch fire at all. \$\endgroup\$
    – Kevin Reid
    Commented Jul 28, 2016 at 15:23
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This answer is for your particular circuit. Other answers have covered the general question.

Yes, you can solder components directly together. The main concern in your circuit would be the motor, which probably takes a lot of current. I recommend giving the Arduino power and ground a separate connection to the 5V supply. This will reduce the noise on the Arduino's power supply when the motor turns on and off.

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simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

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    \$\begingroup\$ Would you want to isolate the arduino even more with a capacitor from VDD to GND? Or maybe two, an electrolytic and a non-electrolytic to better short out high-frequency noise? Maybe even a series inductor between +5V and VDD? (Then you definitely need a relatively-large electrolytic to keep VDD voltage stable as the arduino's VDD current changes.) \$\endgroup\$ Commented Jul 29, 2016 at 10:47
  • \$\begingroup\$ Adding a VDD capacitor is always a good idea, although I suspect the Arduino has some on the board already. A large electrolytic on the motor could be helpful. I'd be wary of putting an inductor on a VDD. \$\endgroup\$
    – Adam Haun
    Commented Jul 29, 2016 at 18:25
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You could - but you shouldn't!

You're asking something similar to "can I carve wood sculpture using a chainsaw?" Of course the answer is that some people do, but it takes a lot of skill, and it's ridiculously easy for one careless move to destroy everything you've done instantly. Given that you're asking this question, there is no doubt that you're a complete beginner to electronics. As a complete beginner, your soldering and assembly skills will not be very good. I would not suggest my grandmother should try chainsaw sculpture, and I would not suggest you try doing this!

What you want is called breadboard. It lets you build circuits simply by pushing components into holes. If you can afford the components, you can afford the breadboard. Save the soldering until you know what you're doing.

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