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I'm making a talkbox for which I need three connections to my guitar amplifier:

  • earth
  • amplified signal
  • connection back to internal speaker of the amplifier (Vox AC15).

(see diagram) Talkbox diagram For the connection between amp and talkbox I would preferably have just one cable with two mono jacks (TS) at the amp and at the other end, a stereo jack (TRS) to plug into the talkbox. In this way the three connections mentioned earlier are all bundled into one cable. The cable I'm thinking of would be similar to this, but suitable for a speaker level:

I can't actually find on the internet and have never heard of stereo speaker cable . Does such a thing exist? Is there any electrical or safety reason why stereo cable is not apparently available?

Generally you would only connect one speaker to one output, not two to the same output jack. Is this the reason?

I could alternatively use two speaker cables but it would be tidier/more convenient to use a cable with three cores.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Try looking for "biwire" speaker cable. (Though it is 4 conductors, not 3.) \$\endgroup\$
    – Ian Cook
    Commented Dec 22, 2016 at 20:07

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"Level" (voltage) isn't likely the issue here — while the voltage can vary much more widely than line level, it is unlikely for the voltage in any modern speaker system to exceed the voltage rating of the wire insulation, and it may not even be particularly higher than line level connections. The difference is in the load impedance (likely 2-8 Ω rather than “high”) and therefore the current (higher). That does mean you're right to want heavier wires, though a regular cable might work fine.

A common source of larger gauge three-conductor cable that comes to mind would be grounded AC line cords. The insulation will be overkill, though (both for the higher voltage and for wear resistance/safety), which will make the cable less flexible and larger diameter than otherwise.

You could make your own cable by using one-and-a-half lengths of standard speaker wire and twisting them tightly together, letting them relax again, then applying braided or spiral cable sleeving along the length, or heat-shrink tubing at key points.

You may also want to reconsider using TS/TRS connectors, as they can short together the contacts if partially unplugged, which might be worse for a speaker amplifier (originally intended to be entirely internal to the guitar amp, too) than other devices more usually using such connectors which are designed to tolerate the temporary short.

As to why no "stereo speaker cable" exists, it is probably just that left and right speakers are put in separate places so two separate cables are needed, and using a partial run of three-conductor cable would be more complex.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Thank you, that answered my question very well. So the amplification to 'speaker level' is not very significant but I suppose all of the electronics in the speaker circuit as opposed to line level is built to handle higher current? I'll hunt around for \$\endgroup\$
    – Adrian
    Commented Dec 21, 2016 at 8:39
  • \$\begingroup\$ some 2x mono to 2x mono speaker cable. Thanks! \$\endgroup\$
    – Adrian
    Commented Dec 21, 2016 at 8:40
  • \$\begingroup\$ Another thought; perhaps having two mono jacks connected to an amp with two mono jacks at the other end is also dangerous for risk of shorting between the signal of one on the unconnected side and the earth of t'other. \$\endgroup\$
    – Adrian
    Commented Dec 21, 2016 at 8:48
  • \$\begingroup\$ "as voltages in speakers aren't particularly higher than line level connections" - Aren't they? Line level is on the order of 1V, while I was under the impression that speaker voltages can be considerably higher, over 40V for larger installations... \$\endgroup\$
    – marcelm
    Commented Dec 21, 2016 at 11:20
  • \$\begingroup\$ @marcelm Fair enough; I was thinking of home-stereo sorts of speakers. Edited. Still, not gonna be hitting the limits of the insulation, surely. \$\endgroup\$
    – Kevin Reid
    Commented Dec 21, 2016 at 14:12
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I Believe what you are looking for is quite common. You could use a four conductor shielded wire typically called "drain" do a search for 22/4 or 18/4 shielded wire. With 22 and 18 being the AWG, and 4 being amount of conductors per cable plus a shield.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ shielded cable is never used as speaker cable I believe because if a break in the signal wire occurred, it would short against the shield and the shield is tied directly to earth. With unshielded cable, there is two layers of insulation between the signal carrying wire and the earth wire \$\endgroup\$
    – Adrian
    Commented Dec 21, 2016 at 19:55

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