# Will a CR2477 coin cell battery make a nichrome wire glow?

To begin with, my experience and knowledge in electronics are very limited. I am familiar with Ohm's law, but only in theory.

I'm developing a small device for which I need a nichrome wire to glow for a minimum of 5 seconds. It shall be powered by a battery, as small as possible. The whole device is disposable so it doesn't matter if the battery goes flat after 5 seconds. The nichrome wire needs to be at least 0.2 mm diameter and 3-5 cm long (but the longer/thicker the better).

I have read every forum covering this topic and have figured out that I need a battery that can supply enough current. I was therefore thinking of the high capacity coin cell battery CR2477 (1000mAh, 3V).

I have found this great website that lets you calculate power requirements for a given wire: http://www.jacobs-online.biz/nichrome/NichromeCalc.html

When I insert my values (5 cm wire, 32 gage, 2V) I get a required current of 1.15 amps. I inserted 2V because of internal resistance of the battery, don't know if that was correct.

Will the CR2477 battery be able to deliver this current for 5 seconds? Or will it explode or burn? In the data sheet of the battery I read a max pulse current of 25mA. But I was thinking that if a standard 9V battery could do the job, this one will also, because it's got a higher capacity (though lower voltage).

I'd like to have an idea of the risks before I start experimenting at home.

Can anybody give a hint if this will work or if it's useless/dangerous? Thanks in advance!

• Use a small Lipo battery like those used in micro r/c planes and helicopters. Here's an example: 130mA 25C = 3.25A max, 1.56A for 5 minutes hobbyking.com/en_us/… Commented Feb 2, 2017 at 18:17

Your first step should be to read the datasheet of a CR2477.

Here is one, this is for the one from Panasonic, CR2477 cells can be made by other manufacturers also but the numbers in the datasheet will be in the same ballpark.

Now look on page 14. There are some graphs but they all list currents below 1 mA, that is 0.001 A. So 1000x less than what you need for your wire. The fact that no data is plotted for currents above 1 mA suggests that it is not intended to be used at much higher currents. 10 mA maybe for a minute but 1 A, forget it !

The CR2477 will probably not explode or whatever since it has a very high internal resistance which limits the current. It will just get slightly warm until its energy is depleted.

This CR2477 is a Lithium button cell and these are designed to provide a small amount of power over a long period of time.

What you want is much more than such a cell can even hope to deliver. You would need a couple of hundred of them in parallel to make your nichrome wire glow even dimly.

Conclusion: No, a CR2477 is not going to work.

Some 9 V batteries might be able to deliver the power you need (if you stick to the alkaline version) but only when they're very fresh. So you'd have to change the battery often.

You should really consider using 4 AA batteries in series for this kind of application.

• Or even 2 decent AAA batteries as a starting point.
– user16324
Commented Feb 2, 2017 at 13:20
• Thanks for a clarifying answer! Will have to think differentely then, as size is critical in this device. I will have to investigate how I, instead, can make a bit of steel wool catch fire from a small battery. I think this could be achievable with for example a A23.
– user137863
Commented Feb 2, 2017 at 13:25
• Or one rechargeable AA. Commented Feb 2, 2017 at 13:26
• An A23 battery consists of many small alkaline button cells in series. This makes for a high internal resistance, limiting the maximum current so I also doubt that a A23 would work. A rechargeable AA (NiMh) cell is indeed a better option as these can deliver high currents. Commented Feb 2, 2017 at 13:35
• instructables.com/id/Steel-Wool-Emergency-Fire-Starter In this video, a guy is using A23 to light steelwool, so here I still have hope! It would not make a nichrome wire glow, this much I have understood. I really need to find something shorter than AA/AAA, that's my issue.
– user137863
Commented Feb 2, 2017 at 13:46