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I'm copying the recommended circuit (the 'Higher Performance' one, actually) from the LM1971 audio attenuator datasheet but there are audible (loud) pops on the output.

LM1971 application from datasheet

I'm using OPA227s for all op-amps -- one shared VREF buffer and one output buffer for each channel -- and a regulated 12V supply. These op-amps have a very low input bias (+/-2.5nA) and high input impedance (10^7Ω), which should prevent these pops according to the datasheet:

Attenuation level changes cause changes in the output impedance of a μPot. Output impedance changes in the presence of a large input bias current for a buffer/amplifier will cause a DC shift to occur. Neglecting amplifier gains and speaker sensitivities, the audibility of a DC shift is dependent upon the output impedance change times the required input bias current. As an example, a 5kΩ impedance change times a 1μA bias current results in a 5mV DC shift; a level that is barely audible without any music material in the system.

I'm only stepping 1dB at a time, as the datasheet also suggests. Does anyone see where I'm going wrong, or where else these pops could be coming from?

EDIT: I believe what I'm experiencing is zipper noise, which is prevalent in discrete volume-changing circuits such as this. Analog devices provides a zipper noise reduction circuit in a few of their digital potentiometer datasheets which seems to only allow the step change to occur when the signal is low enough:

Analog Devices zipper noise reduction circuit

Unfortunately I can't fit this on my PCB but I'll give it a try sometime to see if that fixes things.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Do the pops change in amplitude with the gain setting (i.e. do you get them changing from -60 to -60db the same as -1 to 0db)? Is there any leakage the input capacitor? Have you checked the voltages at the input and output of the attenuator? \$\endgroup\$ – Kevin White May 20 '17 at 2:28
  • \$\begingroup\$ Are you doing this on a breadboard? You might have some parasitic capacitance problems. Admittedly, it's a bit of a stretch that it might be that significant at audio frequencies, but it could potentially have an effect and it's easy enough to ask about. \$\endgroup\$ – Hearth May 20 '17 at 2:39
  • \$\begingroup\$ @KevinWhite there's not even an output at the lowest attenuation settings. If you look at the resistor ladder architecture on pg. 8 of the datasheet, VREF isn't even connected to the circuit in this region so the DC bias is gone and the signal isn't far enough away from the rail (GND) to overcome the op-amp's minimum Vin. That gave me a huge headache. Anyway, I'll try the lower attenuation points, but you'd think it'd be okay at -8dB to -16dB where I've been testing it. \$\endgroup\$ – calcium3000 May 20 '17 at 4:23
  • \$\begingroup\$ Also, the caps are 1uF WIMAs which are coveted by the audiophiles and shouldn't have too much leakage, but I'll look into that. The voltages look pretty good on the input and output, but I did notice that some of the troughs (negative swings) of the signal dip a bit further than expected on the output of the LM1971. Which is weird, but I don't think related to the pops. \$\endgroup\$ – calcium3000 May 20 '17 at 4:30
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Felthry fortunately/unfortunately it's on a PCB, but you have a good point: there's a lot of analog-digital interaction in a small space. I could look into signal integrity issues, too -- it just gets a bit difficult to capture a waveform with an old analog scope :) \$\endgroup\$ – calcium3000 May 20 '17 at 4:33
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Digital pots targeted for audio applications typically include a zero crossing detector which will only allow the volume change to take place at zero crossings. This ensures no clicks/pops or other noises are heard.

Example.

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