I have an amplifier that went bad on the left channel a couple of days ago. I'm kinda intrigued by the failure and symptoms, which is also why I'm posting here and not just counting my losses.

I was under the impression that class A designs feature a single conducting element, thus no cross-over distortion and/or asymmetric behaviour should be possible, which is why I find the output very strange - I've recorded a video with the left & right channel outputs on a sweeping sine:


Note that the oscilloscope input is from the headphone audio jack of the amp. The audio in the video is from a microphone in the room. Some observations:

  • Output distorted waveshape is frequency dependent and input volume dependent
  • In the frequency domain, the non linear distortion seems to be frequency invariant
  • Distortion is load dependent - if I turn off the speakers while recording from the jack, the distortion mostly disappears
  • Distortion levels seem to follow a smooth envelope - if I instantly turn the volume down, the distortion goes away but slowly creeps in again
  • Extreme amplifier feedback reaction - at 0:27 I touch the bass diaphragm of the bad and afterwards the good channel

I have already isolated the error to the output stage, i.e. the preamp outputs are clean. The fault occured instantly, and seemingly out of nowhere.

So while I don't have high hopes for repairing it, I would be very interested if anyone has any ideas as to what might be happening, or how one could diagnose it further. The amplifier in question is a Denon PMA-980R.

Edit: Here's some different parts of the video - interestingly the waveshaping distortion seems to cycle around decades (e.g. from 100 hz to 1kHz cycles around): enter image description here

Also, I claimed it was a class A amplifier because it says "New optical class-A" on the front, and I believe this amplifier range used to be class A, but I may be wrong.

Edit 2: Sweep with no inductive load: https://youtu.be/jQCvrfjg_N8

Edit 3: Schematic enter image description here Here's another part, but I believe it to be mostly irrelevant: enter image description here

Edit 4: Increasing volume showcasing AB behaviour: https://youtu.be/vuVzfaQDpaA

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    \$\begingroup\$ Not going to watch a video. Capture the most important screenshots from it and edit them into the question. And with only one active element, there certainly CAN be asymmetry (but no crossover) \$\endgroup\$
    – user16324
    Commented Jul 9, 2017 at 14:47
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    \$\begingroup\$ Are you sure that its class A? The crappy schematic I see looks like a classic AB power stage. In any case, it needs repair and is probably quite repairable. The distortion in your video isn't very helpful to troubleshoot. \$\endgroup\$
    – glen_geek
    Commented Jul 9, 2017 at 14:57
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    \$\begingroup\$ I have no clue about the details of the output stage, without a schematic. But the behavior looks a lot like the base drive current (to one or more paralleled output BJTs) is insufficient for one half, while adequate for the other half. Given one channel works okay, it's likely the \$\pm\$ voltage rails are okay. But there could be a problem on one side, I suppose. Check for and replace any electrolytics (should not be many on the output stage.) And check the Vbe multiplier's voltage (should have an adjustable pot there.) \$\endgroup\$
    – jonk
    Commented Jul 9, 2017 at 15:57
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    \$\begingroup\$ @Shaggi That may mean the VAS is an opto-isolator. Interesting. \$\endgroup\$
    – jonk
    Commented Jul 9, 2017 at 15:59
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    \$\begingroup\$ @jonk Added the schematic, thanks for your ideas. Will crack it open soon \$\endgroup\$
    – Shaggi
    Commented Jul 9, 2017 at 16:31

3 Answers 3


You got it confused.

Class A simply means that the output devices do not switch off when processing a signal below rated power.

Class A can be implemented single-ended (with one power transistor biased by a current source, for example) but it can also be implemented push-pull, with the usual two complimentary transistors. This is a much better solution a the current that can be output before one of the devices switches is much higher than in the single-ended case (from 2x to 4x depending on topology, devices, etc).

Single-ended class A will have mostly asymmetrical (even order) distortion, whereas push-pull class A will be mostly symmetrical if both push and pull halves are well matched. In both cases, there is no crossover distortion, because there is no crossover!

(The definition of crossover is when one device turns off and hands over control of the output to the other device. Since class A means both devices are always on, there is no crossosver, by definition).

Class AB occurs when the idle bias current of the output stage is insufficient to cover the current needed, so one of the devices turns off. This is crossover, but it does not occurs at zero current. It occurs when the outptu stage runs out of idle bias, so the signal needs to be strong enough to trigger it. On small signals and small currents it operates in class A.

Class B occurs when only one device is on at the same time. This one is difficult to get right, and usually leads to crossover distortion.

More details: https://sound-au.com/articles/amp-class-f1.gif

Now, an amplifier can produce all sorts of asymmetric distortions if only one of the output devices (or drivers) is blown up.

Also, you test with a speaker load, which is inductive. You should not do that. First, if the amp really blows and an output device shorts, it will output full DC rail voltage, and this will melt your woofer voice coil.

Second, on a resistive load this is rather obvious, as half the signal is missing. On an inductive load like a speaker, if one output device is busted, the output will not be controlled during half the cycle, and you'll get all sorts of weird signal shapes. These are merely an interaction of the out of control amp with the wiggly impedance of the speaker, and are not helping your diagnosis.

So, use a resistive load. There might still be some current provided to the output by the drivers, depending on how things have failed, so the output signal can have a good half and a very weak half. Since driver transistors are not rated for the full output current, doing this for too long will blow them. So you should use a load like 100 ohms, and only increase signal strength very carefully.

EDIT: Found the schematics on the net:

enter image description here

This is a class-AB amplifier. It can be biased more or less deep into class A by turning the pot labeled VR501 on the schematics, but be aware that the heatsink most likely has been "cost-optimized" and therefore it will overheat.

The easiest way to know if it's a class A amp is to lift it: if it isn't suitably heavy with visibly huge heatsinks, it isn't class A.

EDIT 2 (with your schematics):

The optocoupler you're wondering about is connected to the output stage bias controller. It is also driven by the bunch of opamps in the top right corner. Notice the diodes there.

Therefore, I think it adjusts the idle current of the output stage depending on an average of the output voltage envelope, keeping the amplifier in (or almost in) class A. Clever scheme to make it less of a space heater, but still class A.

  • \$\begingroup\$ +1 for testing whether it's class A by trying to lift it! \$\endgroup\$
    – Neil_UK
    Commented Jul 9, 2017 at 15:47
  • \$\begingroup\$ Hi, thanks for your exhaustive answer and the information!! Firstly, your schematics are not from the same model (although they may be the same, either way...) - I do have the schematics though, will upload them briefly. Also I added a video with a recorded sweep, with no inductive load attached: youtu.be/jQCvrfjg_N8 - I'll test some more. Regarding the test, I will say it weighs a fair amount and has very beefy heatsinks. But I guess it's all relative \$\endgroup\$
    – Shaggi
    Commented Jul 9, 2017 at 16:13
  • \$\begingroup\$ I believe you're right about AB. In this video I slowly dial the volume control up, and reveals a gradual A -> AB behaviour with one side seemingly dead: youtu.be/vuVzfaQDpaA \$\endgroup\$
    – Shaggi
    Commented Jul 9, 2017 at 17:00
  • \$\begingroup\$ (see my edit 2 above). One side of the output stage seems busted, check transistors with multimeter in diode mode, starting from output back to drivers... \$\endgroup\$
    – bobflux
    Commented Jul 9, 2017 at 17:05
  • \$\begingroup\$ Transistors checked out out okay, but it turned out to be missing supply voltage instead - see my posted solution. Thanks a lot for the help and info, it made it possible to repair it! \$\endgroup\$
    – Shaggi
    Commented Jul 26, 2017 at 20:06

So, I'm back with an update! Thanks again for all the answers and hints, I managed to repair it! I'll post the solution here, in case anyone is interested or someone else encounters the same problem.

So this is the main unit: enter image description here I've annotated the most important transistors for this issue, and it definitely is class AB to some degree, it has a pair of 2SA1490 PNP and complimentary 2SC3854 NPN transistors for each channel (and has 2x output for each channel, hence 8 main transistors).

I started out by tracing a sine tone through the amplifier, and measuring the waveform with a scope. I identified TR525 and TR523 as responsible for the positive part of the signal on the left channel, and confirmed they were missing the 53 V supply voltage on the collector (the middle pin) as theorized by the answers. Here's the relevant part of the schematic:

enter image description here

Note that the voltage was present on TR511 and TR519. Hence, I went looking for the positive power supply rail on the board around the electrolytes, and I discovered some corrosion on the rails under the electrolytes. I had previously noted the brown stuff around the electrolytes, but ignored it thinking it was glue for holding the large components in place. Here I desoldered the caps, and it is clearly visible the bottom left rail is actually completely corroded.

enter image description here

I suppose the caps leaked some electrolyte at some point, slowly eating away the rails - but it was definitely many years ago, and strangely enough I could not find visible damage on any of the caps. The caps tested out OK, so I basically cleaned the board, replaced the rails with some insulated copper wire, and it works like a charm again!

enter image description here

  • \$\begingroup\$ Nice! You got lucky it didn't leak below the board, the goop also eats PCB traces... \$\endgroup\$
    – bobflux
    Commented Jul 26, 2017 at 20:27
  • \$\begingroup\$ @peufeu I consider myself extremely lucky in this case in any case, lots of components could have been fried... Let's see how long it lives from this point on. \$\endgroup\$
    – Shaggi
    Commented Jul 26, 2017 at 21:59

This is NOT a class A amplifier.

After having seen the video, it looks like some DC (or very low frequency) has been added to the signal fed into a class B amplifier with cross-over distortion.

The DC moved the cross over bumps to a non-center location causing asymmetrical distortion. In other words, the cross-over happens at non-zero voltages.

So my guess about the amplifier:
- Has terrible cross over distortion
- It's class (A)B
- Its input is DC coupled and has picked up some unnecessary bias
- Its output is AC coupled

  • \$\begingroup\$ Are you sure about Class A distortion? Isn't it's raison d'être that it's almost perfect reproduction if the final transistor is biased properly in the middle /linear bit of it's operating range? \$\endgroup\$
    – Paul Uszak
    Commented Jul 9, 2017 at 15:03
  • \$\begingroup\$ I'm not 100% sure. But a typical amplifier isn't going to be perfect, so the typical class A amp might not be properly biased. \$\endgroup\$
    – Oskar Skog
    Commented Jul 9, 2017 at 15:13
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    \$\begingroup\$ Watchout. Topology and bias class are two different things. While B/AB class must be pushpull, class A can either be single ended or pushpull. Class A pushpull will have no more simmetry issues than its B/AB counterpart \$\endgroup\$
    – carloc
    Commented Jul 9, 2017 at 15:27

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