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Building a simple class AB audio amplifier to drive a 16 ohm, 5 watt speaker from my phone streaming music. I have found many circuits on line, and am just building a simple version. The circuit is as below

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I am getting alot of distortion from this circuit, and alot of times the audio cuts out completely. I figured it was either because the power supply was too small, the connections were crummy, the speaker was too big (doubtful, but really wasn't sure what the problem could be) or the transistors are not biased correctly. I tried some different power supplies and got the same results, so I don't think that is the problem. I tried a different speaker and got the same results, so I don't think that is the problem either. I soldered everything on a perfboard, and crimped or screw terminaled external connections - same result. I am down to a biasing problem, but I am not sure how to obtain the proper bias. Most of the circuits I found were very similar to this. One big difference is alot of circuits use TIP31/32 transistors or something like that for the output stage. Could the problem be in these BD135/36 transistors I am using? I scavenged them from a tv control board or something and didn't have any TIPs, but I thought this should work. Transistors test fine. I took a bunch of measurements I could post if those would be helpful. I did notice that at one point the NPN transistor in the push-pull stage was very warm while the PNP was cold with no input signal, which also led me down the path of improper biasing. However, I have not been able to repeat that phenomenon, which I also found weird. Right now, all three transistors are running pretty cool, which I think is a result of the transistors not conducting properly due to improper biasing.

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    \$\begingroup\$ Where did you find this magnificent circuit? \$\endgroup\$
    – pipe
    Sep 15, 2017 at 18:45
  • \$\begingroup\$ @pipe - I assume you are not a fan of this circuit given your statement. Below is a website where he kind of goes over derviations to get to this point. \$\endgroup\$ Sep 15, 2017 at 18:48
  • \$\begingroup\$ electronics-tutorials.ws/amplifier/class-ab-amplifier.html \$\endgroup\$ Sep 15, 2017 at 18:48
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    \$\begingroup\$ There is no feedback, and nothing to set the DC operating point of Q1, throw this schematic away... \$\endgroup\$
    – bobflux
    Sep 15, 2017 at 18:48
  • \$\begingroup\$ shoot.. maybe I missed something in the original schematic. Here is another website with something similar. I didn't build it exactly like this, kind of combined the two. Maybe that's my problem? hackaweek.com/hacks/?p=332 \$\endgroup\$ Sep 15, 2017 at 18:49

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The original:

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R1 is bootstrapped to the output, so it acts more or less like a current source to bias the diodes D1/D2.

The diodes are not thermally coupled to the transistors, but this is mostly a class B amp, so the rigk of thermal runaway is low. Still, 2N3904 to drive a 8 ohms speaker is.... mmeeeehhh... low current transistor.

R2 is essential, as it provides feedback! Without it distortion will be huge.

And more important, R2 sets the output DC operating point (in a way that doesn't work...)

Fix:

  • R2 needs to be 10k, not 100k.
  • Add 1.5k resistor between Q3 base and ground.

This makes a voltage divider. Q3 will keep its Vbe around 0.65V, so the feedback voltage divider will keep the output around 4.3V or midsupply. This sets the DC operating point. Without the second 1.5k resistor, DC operating point is dependent on Q3 base current, which is not known.

  • Add 1.5k to 10k in series with the input cap, since this thing takes a current input (more or less...) it will have too much gain without the resistor.
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  • \$\begingroup\$ OK! I will make those changes and post results! Thanks so much. Will my speaker work the way I have it in my schematic with the change in the bootstrapping, or do I need to wire it exactly as shown on this schematic? \$\endgroup\$ Sep 15, 2017 at 19:25
  • \$\begingroup\$ That is much clearer to me now.. I wasn't sure what the 100k was doing, but with it creating a voltage divider at 10k with a 1.5k, it makes more sense! Funny how it is 100k in both the schematics I posted. \$\endgroup\$ Sep 15, 2017 at 19:28
  • \$\begingroup\$ @nu77p01nt3r Also examine this page where I write some complementary information about the design, as well as some other options: electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/262274/… \$\endgroup\$
    – jonk
    Sep 15, 2017 at 19:51
  • \$\begingroup\$ Honestly it isn't a good schematic, it's what you would get from a cheap 1970's "transistor" radio. These days you're better off purchasing a cheap class-D amp from aliexpress. \$\endgroup\$
    – bobflux
    Sep 15, 2017 at 19:55
  • \$\begingroup\$ It is better to connect the 2nd pin of the speaker to GND as you did, instead of the supply. Output capacitors will get rid of the DC anyway. By the way, since the polarity of said DC is known, you don't need 2 caps back to back, one is enough. But again, this schematic is very lo-fi... \$\endgroup\$
    – bobflux
    Sep 15, 2017 at 19:56

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