# Effects of using voltmeter w/ 20 kΩ impedance across 35 kΩ resistor?

Our professor assigned the following question:

Describe both quantitatively and qualitatively the effects of using a voltmeter to measure the voltage across a 35 kΩ resistor if the voltmeter has an input impedance of 20 kΩ. Assume the 35 kΩ resistor is in series with another 35 kΩ resistor.

All I know from the reading and lecture is that your voltmeter needs to have a much higher impedance/resistance than the circuit resistance in order to avoid the meter loading effect, which causes instrument misreadings. How MUCH higher impedance/resistance does the voltmeter need to have in relation to the circuit resistance? I don't know how to do the math (the "quantitative" part). Is what I said sufficient enough for a "qualitative" explanation?

I emailed my professor yesterday morning. He never got back to me, and this was due last night.

EDIT:

Here's what I tried to work out...Using 10V as the Voltage from the Voltage Source, I figured out that the Voltage Drop across each resistor should be 5V when everything is in series. But I don't know what to do when the voltmeter is attached to a resistor. Do I calculate everything as if it's all a parallel circuit now? Is only R1 and VM1 part of a parallel circuit, whereas R2 is still only part of a series circuit? The answer key says:

Quantitatively: If the applied voltage is 10 Volts, you should measure 5.0 Volts across each resistor, but you actually would measure 2.667 Volts

I need to know how he got 2.667V in his example...

• You need (1) some ability at algebra and (2) some basic understanding of conductance and resistance and Ohm's law. Saying "I don't know how to do the math" means either that you don't have basic algebra skills (a pre-requisite) or else you don't understand basic conductance/resistance concepts or both. Can you draw a schematic of what you perceive occurs just before and just after adding a voltmeter? – jonk Sep 16 '17 at 21:53
• @jonk I added what I could figure out...I'm going crazy. I know I need to use the inverse when calculating total resistance in parallel circuits (1/R), but I don't know if I should include R2 in that calculation. (Is R2 part of the parallel circuit?) All I need is the Voltage of the parallel circuit and I'm good, right? (whatever that consists of...) Why is this so hard for me to figure out – velkoon Sep 17 '17 at 0:04
• Thanks. You've applied yourself here and I appreciate it. Let me see what I can do to help, now. – jonk Sep 17 '17 at 0:33
• @jonk I just updated the picture and changed my calculation for total resistance. (I'm very, very slow at learning anything STEM-related..) – velkoon Sep 17 '17 at 0:39

First off, I removed the battery symbol. It's enough to specify a ground (you get to pick any one wire [aka: node] and call it $0\:\textrm{V}$) and the source voltage point.

Second, it doesn't matter which of the two $35\:\textrm{k}\Omega$ resistors you measure across (you should get the same answer either way), so I placed one end of the voltmeter at the "ground" (zero) reference point and the other end at an "interesting" point. If you look this over, you should be able to see that it asks the same question as does your newly added schematic.

Third, I've separated out the internal meter resistance as a discrete, added resistor to the schematic. The idea here is that now the voltmeter has "infinite" resistance and so it does not affect the circuit, anymore. But to keep the behavior the same, I had to add $R_{METER}$. Given your own schematic, I think you can see why this would still be the same question. simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

Now, you should know how to calculate parallel resistances. So you can compute the equivalent single resistor you could use to replace the pair of $R_2$ and $R_{METER}$.

But before I go there, you can look at the resistors as instead being conductors. (In electronics, the symbol $G$ is used instead of $R$.) So $G_1=\frac{1}{R_1}$, $G_2=\frac{1}{R_2}$ and $G_{METER}=\frac{1}{R_{METER}}$. The total conductance of $G_1$ and $G_{METER}$ is just the sum of the two, because adding another conductance makes the whole thing more "conductive," right? So, if you add the conductance of $R_2$ and $R_{METER}$ and then convert that paired conductance back into a resistance again, you'd have the result of this as the paired resistance value of the two:

$$R_{METER}\mid\mid R_2=\frac{1}{\frac{1}{R_{METER}}+\frac{1}{R_2}}=\frac{R_{METER}\cdot R_2}{R_{METER}+R_2}=12.\overline{72}\:\textrm{k}\Omega$$

Now, it's just a voltage divider made up of two resistors. $R_1$ is still the same, but you now have a new replacement resistor that replaces the pairing of $R_2$ and $R_{METER}$. (Above computed value.)

From this divider, you should be able to calculate the resulting voltage.

Note that $R_{TOTAL}=R_1+\left(R_2\mid\mid R_{METER}\right)$ and that if you compute $I_{TOTAL}$ from that and $V_{TOTAL}=10\:\textrm{V}$, that this will NOT tell you the current through $R_2$. That's because $R_2$ must share this total current (all of which does have to flow through $R_1$) with $R_{METER}$.

An entirely different approach would be to construct the Thevenin equivalent before attaching the meter to it. This would be: simulate this circuit

Once again, you have a new voltage divider circuit that will yield the exact same result. But a different approach to getting there.

Note here that a different $R_{TOTAL}=\left(R_1\mid\mid R_2\right)+R_{METER}$ is computed and that if you then compute a different $I_{TOTAL}$ from this (and $V_{THEVENIN}=5\:\textrm{V}$), that this will actually tell you the current through $R_{METER}$. That's because while $R_1$ and $R_2$ must share this total current, all of it does have to flow through $R_{METER}$. So you can compute the voltage by multiplying this current times $R_{METER}$.

Instead of claiming you can't do this, stop and actually think about it.

Draw the schematic of the circuit without the voltmeter. Then draw the schematic with the voltmeter. To the circuit, the voltmeter just looks like a 20 kΩ resistor.

Note that you are told that the 35 kΩ is in series with another 35 kΩ resistor. Basically, the 35 kΩ resitor you are to measure the voltage on is being driven by a Thevenin source with 35 kΩ impedance.

You really should be able to solve this easily from here. I expect the professor didn't get back to you because he thinks this is a easy problem you should be able to figure out yourself with a little thought. He is right.

How MUCH higher impedance/resistance does the voltmeter need to have in relation to the circuit resistance?

@Jonk has already taken you through the steps of how to calculate what's going on exactly. However it's worth addressing the other part of your question in a very rough and quick manner, when is a meter high enough impedance?

Let's say the meter has 100x the impedance of the components you're trying to measure. The current flowing through the meter will then be about 1% of that in the components, which will reduce the measured voltage by about 1%. It's not exactly 1%, you need to go through all the sums for the exact figure, but roughly, in that ballpark.

Is 1% close enough? It's comparable with the inherent accuracy of most cheap meters, and most reasonable components, so it would be adequate for many purposes. Sometimes you would want to know you weren't degrading your meter accuracy by any significant amount, and limit the added error to 0.1%. This would require the meter to have roughly 1000x times the circuit impedance.

Most DMM have a 10Mohm input resistance. This means that you can measure circuits with 10k resistance with around 0.1% added error, and up to 100k with about 1% added error.

• And the dirty little secret is that most of the time, 2 sig. fig. is more then you really care about. You do however need to be aware of this effect, as even with a 10Meg meter it is not always irrelevant (Particularly when designing sensor electronics, sometimes you see Gig ohm impedance levels). – Dan Mills Sep 17 '17 at 15:34