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I have this motor I salvaged from a dryer, and I'm interested in reversing the direction of spin because it spins in the direction opposite of typical machine threads. Motor The Capacitor is shown at the bottom of this picture(relative to the picture, just above the white letters): Capacitor Shown

The cyan and white-red wires are AC lines. I can't figure out what the purple wire is, and the dryer wiring diagram says nothing about the motor aside from how it is wired in the dryer. Additionally, the connector that connects to the terminal block does not have a wire for the purple pin, leading me to believe that it is used in starting the motor. Using an ohmmeter, the purple wire is connected to all of the ac lines.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Find the connections to each coil and reverse them on one of them. \$\endgroup\$ Sep 20, 2017 at 16:08
  • \$\begingroup\$ @ratchetfreak That's just the thing though, the wires disappear into the coils. I can't interact with them beyond this point. \$\endgroup\$ Sep 20, 2017 at 16:14
  • \$\begingroup\$ Are you sure that is the capacitor and not a thermal cutout? It looks too small to be the capacitor, appears to be incorporated in the connector. If it doesn't read open circuit, it will be a cutout, and the blue wire will be the common, with the capacitor separate, and connected between the other two, with the ac connected to the W/R for one direction, or the purple for the other. \$\endgroup\$ Oct 14, 2020 at 23:53
  • \$\begingroup\$ Dryer motors can become covered in fluff and overheat, so they normally have an overcurrent/over temperature cutout mounted on them. To check which wire is which, if the resistance is too low to measure, connect a torch battery & globe across the W/R & the purple and measure the mV across. The blue should have 1/2 the voltage on it. \$\endgroup\$ Oct 15, 2020 at 0:54
  • \$\begingroup\$ If it is a cutout, the real capacitor has probably long since gone to the tip along with the rest of the dryer. Values generally range from 6uF to 8uF, 450Vac . At the load you are using the motor on, the current should be about equal in both windings. If it's a very light load, maybe a 4uF will do. \$\endgroup\$ Oct 15, 2020 at 1:55

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It looks like Charles' point that you can't get to the windings is the case. There looks to be three wires coming from the windings and no starter switch. so you have this case:

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So it looks like the white/orange is tied to the two windings, main and aux, (the lower line). So unless you can reach into the windings and reverse one of those, you can't reverse it. If you can, you want to bring another wire out so you can separate the connection from main and aux. from the white/orange.

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In order to reverse a single-phase motor, it is usually necessary to reverse one winding with respect to the other. If you don't have access to both ends of the windings, the motor can not be reversed. That is likely the case for a dryer.

Some motors that are designed for reverse operation have two identical windings. In that case, the capacitor can be connected to either winding for either direction. That is certainly not the case for a dryer.

If the motor runs in the "wrong" direction for its original use, the capacitor may now be connected to the "wrong" winding.

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A tumbler dryer motor needs to run in both directions to tumble the laundry as intended. Usually the schematic is as follows:

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simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

So one coil is connected to AC directly while the other is connected through the cap. By selecting which one the tumbler control logic can change the direction from time to time.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Hi @Janka, From the photo, he has only one wire from the cap to the motor without other connections. So it seems this dryer only turns one way. \$\endgroup\$
    – lakeweb
    Sep 20, 2017 at 22:58
  • \$\begingroup\$ It's a salvaged part so I doubt the wiring as shown on the photos is still correct. \$\endgroup\$
    – Janka
    Sep 20, 2017 at 22:59
  • \$\begingroup\$ Hi @Janka, This is a pretty typical dryer. You can see that the blower is driven by the motor. They just don't reverse this kind of dryer. My dryer is the same and it does not reverse. \$\endgroup\$
    – lakeweb
    Sep 20, 2017 at 23:03
  • \$\begingroup\$ All the tumbler dryers I owned had the blower driven by the main motor. The motor still reverses each 2 minutes or so for 10 seconds to tumble the laundry better (and obviously, the blower is reversed and dysfunctional during that time). Then it returns to forward direction. \$\endgroup\$
    – Janka
    Sep 20, 2017 at 23:06
  • \$\begingroup\$ Hi @Janka, then if yours reverses, it certainly does not have a belt drive like that. The idler would not keep the belt tight in reverse. When I was rubbing elbows with my wife's appliance business, almost all dryers ran one way. I can only imagine that rather high end dryers reverse. \$\endgroup\$
    – lakeweb
    Sep 20, 2017 at 23:12
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Single-phase motor rotation direction is based on the initial direction given by the starter winding, nothing significant about the main winding will favor initial movement.(180 degree pole reversal has no rotational aspect and the magnetic field is zero twice per cycle) Direction can also be reversed by starting it with a mechanical spin in the desired direction. Did this dryer have an auto start or manual starter button? Most old dryers that I have used require the user to hold a starter button until the motor has enough momentum for the main winding to operate.

Just in case this is a commercial dryer motor(only induction was mentioned). 3-phase induction motors do not have starter windings because the rotation direction is inherent and can be reversed simply by reversing any two of the phase wires.(120 degree pole changes are clearly rotating either clockwise or CCW, and the magnetic field is never zero at any point in the rotation.)

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