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The input of the band pass filter is 30Khz triangular wave of 1Vpp. I want the band pass filter to allow 27k-33k Hz . I have used these values based on the formulas I found online for this band pass filter.

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Unfortunately the problem seems to be , that at high frequencies eg. 60kHz it does not cut them off and the second problem that it reduces the 1Vpp to 500mV Vpp which I don't want either.

This is with input of 30khz(in green ) and band pass output (in blue) enter image description here

And this is with 60kHz input (same colours)

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To me it seems they are the same, which is bad. What I am doing wrong , which values should I use

ps. the formulas for the values I used are on this site http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/filter/filter_7.html

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    \$\begingroup\$ You're going to need a much higher order filter than what you have if you want to have good attenuation of a signal only 1 octave above the LPF cut-off frequency. \$\endgroup\$
    – The Photon
    Jan 9, 2018 at 19:00
  • \$\begingroup\$ @ThePhoton I am using a second order low pass filter after this band pass , but I am specifically told to use a band pass filter that does the things I mention in my question . There has to be a combination of capacitors and resistors that accomplish this \$\endgroup\$
    – user170589
    Jan 9, 2018 at 19:06
  • \$\begingroup\$ Are you not allowed to use inductors? Remember we only know as much about your problem as you actually tell us. \$\endgroup\$
    – The Photon
    Jan 9, 2018 at 19:17
  • \$\begingroup\$ @ThePhoton No its only RC, I know I am trying to provide as much information to be clear \$\endgroup\$
    – user170589
    Jan 9, 2018 at 19:22
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    \$\begingroup\$ "Low" is not an engineering specification. You need to have a quantitative spec like "at least 10x attenuation" or "at least 4x attenuation" before you or anybody else can design this filter. \$\endgroup\$
    – The Photon
    Jan 9, 2018 at 19:46

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The filter you have is the simplest kind of bandpass filter. Really it's just a high-pass filter cascaded with a low-pass filter. So long as you keep within the op-amp's operating frequency range, there will be little interaction between the low-pass components and the high-pass components.

So to block the 60-kHz signal, you're relying on a first-order low-pass filter. A first order filter can only achieve 6 dB per octave roll-off, so you shouldn't expect more than a factor of 2 difference in the output voltage between 30 kHz and 60 kHz with this design.

If you want to provide more attenuation in the stop-band at one octave above the pass-band, you will need a higher order filter.

First, you need to decide your specification: What is the minimum acceptable attenuation at 60 kHz.

Then look for a design that can meet your specification. This might be a higher-order low-pass filter, or it might be a (higher-order) band-pass filter actually designed as a band-pass rather than low-pass plus high-pass.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Honestly, the OP may need to use all 4 sections of a quad op-amp. 24 dB per octave may have to be good enough with analog filters. \$\endgroup\$
    – user105652
    Jan 9, 2018 at 23:13
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Sparky256, now they say they only need 4x attenuation at 60 kHz, so they might not need to go that far. \$\endgroup\$
    – The Photon
    Jan 10, 2018 at 1:48
  • \$\begingroup\$ Well at least the quad package gives the OP that option, if needed. \$\endgroup\$
    – user105652
    Jan 10, 2018 at 2:02

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