I am designing a PCB with RF (~3 GHz), analog/mixed-signal (ADC, DDS) and some high speed digital lines (ADC outputs, DDS input; ~100 MHz).

There are very few RF lines which I can have on one layer. But digital may be more which I need to route in different layers.

I decided to use just one single ground (due to added complexity, issues with return currents and questionable benefits). On the PCB I use 6 supplies all over the place (1V, 1.2V, +/-3.3V, +/-5V ... and also 2.5V and 1.8V but they are more localized).

My previous prototype was 4 layer and for that the one "correct" way was: 1 - important signals, 2 - Ground plane, 3 - supply plane (all supplies on same layer), 4 - less important signals.

Now I want to upgrade to 6 or 8 layers (cost is secondary). Assuming 8 layers bring signifiant benefits - what is the best stackup?

Two possible options:

  1. Signal: Biases, references, less important stuff, high speed digital (short lines)
  2. -5.0V, -3.3V
  3. 1.0V, 1.2V
  4. GND
  5. Signal: stripline (RF, high speed digital)
  6. GND
  7. 5V, 3.3V
  8. Signal: Less important stuff, high speed digital (short lines).

Advantages: GSG for stripline

Disadvantages: -5V/-3.3V no closeby ground, high speed digital couples into supplies, Layer 1+8 problematic for high speed digital since no ground plane.

  1. Signal: RF (uStrip), high speed digital
  2. GND
  3. 1.0V, 1.2V
  4. GND
  5. Signal: high speed digital
  6. 5V, 3.3V, -5V, -3.3V
  7. GND
  8. Signal: high speed digital

Advantages: All signals and supplies have ground nearby

Disadvantage: uStrip (no stripline)

Many possible combinations are possible but none of them seems really too great. Ideally I would have 20 layers and separate each layer by ground. But since this is not possible with 8 (this is about max for me) - maybe better start off with 6?

For all options, I would create a polygon pour to GND net on all signal layers where there is no signal routing to add additional grounding.


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The general idea is there exists capacitance between layers, decreasing the height (or distance between layers) increases this capacitance. The second thing to worry about is the return current, the closer these currents are the lower the inductance.

For high speed digital signals you will probably want a stack up like this

Signal (top)


Signal (TOP)

This shows below the return currents, keep in mind that adding vias also increases inductance, which will limit the high speed or RF capability. By placing the signal and RF layers close to a ground, the easier it is going to design transmission lines, and the less impedance any trace will have.

enter image description here Source: Henry W Ott PCB layer stackup

Another thing to keep in mind is the stackup:

The Prepeg layers can lower capacitance even more and allow for even lower impedance (faster speed) traces.

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Source: Dos and dont's for PCB layer stackup

Crossing planes will also be a problem, so you don't want to have your top signal layer right over a layer reserved for power planes, because they will be split and this will lead to EMI problems as the trace has capacitance to both the planes. It is better for the signal traces to have capacitance to one continuous ground plane

With high speed digital the first option is going to be a problem especially with the top layer, the second one is much better.

  • \$\begingroup\$ This helps a lot and the linked material is very helpful! However, the emphasis is a bit much on on EMI only. One of my main questions was microstrip vs. stripline. Is a stripline superior against a microstrip and hence should I plan for GND-Sig-GND? Would GND-SIG-PWR constitute a valid stripline too? PWR-Sig-PWR? In my opinion Fig 9 of hottconsultants.com/techtips/pcb-stack-up-4.html does not const would not be a good idea (except for EMI) because no stripline? \$\endgroup\$
    – divB
    Commented Feb 1, 2018 at 21:27
  • \$\begingroup\$ Yes as shown in the diagram above a stripline will work on the top plane. Here is a stripline calculator this works for a stripline on top of ground or a sig-gnd-ect stackup. eeweb.com/tools/microstrip-impedance \$\endgroup\$
    – Voltage Spike
    Commented Feb 1, 2018 at 21:55
  • \$\begingroup\$ If you want an embeded microstrip line for routing a signal layer inside of a pcb (the SIG in the stackup or a sig-gnd-SIG-ect). You'll need to use a different calculator allaboutcircuits.com/tools/… I would review impedance matching and transmission lines also before designing. If you like the answer, upvote and mark the best answer. \$\endgroup\$
    – Voltage Spike
    Commented Feb 1, 2018 at 21:57
  • \$\begingroup\$ No, it decreases capacitance. Changing, lost my wits for a moment \$\endgroup\$
    – Voltage Spike
    Commented Feb 2, 2018 at 5:32

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