# How to reduce AC sine wave noise

I'm try to build a cheap pressure transducer to use with my cheap Hantek 1008c scope for automotive measurements. When I started taking measurements and testing it, I saw a 40mv peak to peak, approximately 1kHz sine wave riding on the output signal. I think this is just noise from a cheap transducer, but I got curious as to how I might eliminate this noise.

I'm using this 30psi transducer ( and a 200 psi one ), plus a Drok 2203 buck converter for power. The transducer has three wires, power, ground and signal. It expects 5v, and linearly outputs from 0.5v at 0 psi up to 4.5v at 30 psi. It's ground, and that of the BNC connector which goes to the scope are both hooked up to the Drok's ground.

I've already checked the power supply and it's giving a clean 5v. I decided to try shunting the AC component to ground using a capacitor between the signal wire and 0v ref, and after experimenting found that a 0.1uF mylar cap worked best, although "best" only reduced the amplitude of the sine wave noise by about 40%.

So I'm curious how one could completely eliminate noise like this?

Here are a before and after. I tried inserting images, but couldn't so just linked to a 50 sec vid.

EDIT

Here is what it looks like at 5us, without the cap

and with the cap:

I guess there was some kind of aliasing going on at the higher timebases.

So is this 400 kHz sine wave just a defect in the transducer as I suspect, and is there anything I can do to get rid of it completely without affecting the rest of the signal?

EDIT 27/04/2018

First off, the 400 kHz 35 mv p-p noise was indeed coming from the buck converter. But, I also found that the transducer itself was producing it's own noise. I replaced the buck converter with a 4.5 volt battery and saw the following:

I got the same result when I inserted the RC LPF right on the output of the buck converter. The best LPF results were with a 47 Ohm resistor and 1uF cap. It reduced the amplitude of the buck converter noise to only 3mv, without noticeably reducing the signal voltage, which is completely acceptable.

I may use the 4.5 volt battery, or the buck converter with the LPF, either way I'll need to get a better quality pressure transducer.

• Add some resistance in series with the signal wire and put the capacitor on the scope side after the resistor. You don't say what settling time or accuracy you need -- you're only limited by the voltage divider you're creating with the 1MΩ scope input. – Daniel Apr 26 '18 at 9:13
• @Daniel Won't adding resistance in series drop the voltage on the signal wire and reduce the accuracy of the signal? It's supposed to be 0.0075 psi / mv for the 30 psi transducer with an accuracy of within 1.5%. These transducers typically are supposed to have a response time of about 1ms. I only have a very basic understanding of electronics from an automotive technicians pov. – Robert S. Barnes Apr 26 '18 at 11:47
• Humor me here, and try setting your scope to a much faster sweep (microseconds or tens of microseconds) and see if anything interesting shows up. – Spehro Pefhany Apr 26 '18 at 15:07
• @SpehroPefhany indeed, something interesting did show up. At 5us it shows up as a 400 kHz sine wave; see my pictures I added. – Robert S. Barnes Apr 26 '18 at 17:09

• Not sure what filter configuration would be best without knowing a lot more about that DC-DC converter. RC filter will not change the DC voltage if your scope is high-Z input. For example a BNC scope input may be 1M$\Omega$ || 20pF, so 10K will have little effect (1%-ish). A x10 probe will be more like 10M so even less. – Spehro Pefhany Apr 26 '18 at 18:56