# Designing flyback converter - minimum primary turns

Calculating minimum primary turns: when formulas provided they are based on transformer specs that are not always available, like permeability, air gap etc.

In many cases, however, it is assumed that a suitable transformer will be selected by Lp, Isat and coil ratios. Is this acceptable simplification?

It seems to me all those calculations are supposed to be done already by the transformer manufacturer.

Speaking of transformer selection, a lot of DC-DC use much more compact inductors or toroids. Can I use something like these (DRQ, CTX, Polecat) chosen by primary inductance and saturation current and rewind secondaries as required?

In many cases, however, it is assumed that a suitable transformer will be selected by Lp, Isat and coil ratios. Is this acceptable simplification?

Yes, it's totally acceptable providing you adopt the approach of winding your own coil, with the core of your choice that is operated at the frequency of your choice within the design limits imposed by variations in the voltages on the incoming DC supply.

If you expect to find a suitable off-the-shelf transformer, more often than not you will be disappointed and so you are faced of biting the bullet and rolling your own. So, you roll your own and bravely connect it to your flyback circuit and, hey presto it works.

You are then left with that wonderful thought - "what was it that originally concerned me about making my own transformer".

Sure things can go wrong but these are not difficult circuits to debug and you'll probably never make that mistake again (such as not using the right dot notation for the secondary winding or miscalculating primary inductance). Anthing else is benign and sure, things may get a litle hot but you turn the supply off and double check things and rewind/re-core.

It seems to me all those calculations are supposed to be done already by the transformer manufacturer.

And if that manufaturer is you, that will happen.

Regards the product recommendation, you can usually re-wind secondaries how you want - see - you are starting to get there!!

• bullett? 123456 – winny May 29 '18 at 11:11
• Aw ya could have fixed it for me dude LOL. – Andy aka May 29 '18 at 11:12
• English isn't my first language so when suddenly girl is spelled grrl on the interwebz, I'm lost. Same goes for pun-intended made up portmanteau words. Coudn't tell. – winny May 29 '18 at 11:16
• You speak/write pretty good English all the same. – Andy aka May 29 '18 at 11:17