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I am looking for recommendations for a strong adhesive that would be easy to apply by hand in production quantities. This is for fastening an ABS plastic riser in between two PCBs.

Epoxy would work, but we would need to make sure the set time was long enough to prevent hardening too quickly.

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    \$\begingroup\$ Related question: electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/18525/… \$\endgroup\$
    – m.Alin
    Aug 24, 2012 at 21:16
  • \$\begingroup\$ It might be helpful to describe what the part is made of, since some adhesives are better than others for certain materials. \$\endgroup\$
    – markrages
    Aug 24, 2012 at 21:39
  • \$\begingroup\$ Epoxies are available with all kinds of different working times. Many will effectively never cure at room temperature. \$\endgroup\$
    – The Photon
    Aug 25, 2012 at 19:14
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    \$\begingroup\$ In additiona to what @ThePhoton said. Pot life is the industry term for the amount of time that you've got after mixing the epoxy before it cures to the point where you can't apply it any longer. And another thought. Solder mask is polyolefin. FR4 is fiberglass (glass+epoxy). Epoxy sticks to epoxy better than to polyolefin. In your layout, make a window in the solder mask. \$\endgroup\$ Aug 25, 2012 at 21:24

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(1) In one application I am involved with we use a two adhesive process.

  • Silicone rubber is used as the long term adhesive and sealant. Tack time is hours and full cure time is 1 day +.

    Many silicone rubbers set by absorption of atmospheric water and cure times may be measured in mm's of distance from surfaces in 24 hours.

  • "Hot melt" adhesive is used to form a rapid bond with tack times dependant on thermal transfer away from the joint site, but typically tens of seconds to a few minutes. In our case the parts concerned are held together with a velcro wrap and tensioning block - these are removed after a few minutes and recycled.

(2) Hot melt glues by themselves are not very strong and will almost invariably debond from most surfaces after a period of months to years. MOST uses of hot melt in commercial products result in joints falling apart in time.

(3) You can buy adhesives which are applied as a hot melt adhesive but which cross link and transform to a silicon rubber in hours. These are relatively rare and cost typically about twice as much as equivalent standard silicon rubbers. Dow Corning USA advertise two such silicon rubbers.

(4) The hotmelt + silicon rubber arrangement would work equally well with hotmelt + epoxy.

(5) You can buy epoxy resin with 5 minute working time and also with one minute working time (Araldite make both). These are less strong when fully cured than standard setting time epoxy resin (24 hour full cure) but MAY be strong enough for your purpose or could be used in a two adhesive system as above.

Any epoxy can have its setting time accelerated substantially by application of elevated temperatures. Be wary of "cooking" 'Araldite' by too high temperature curing.

Be aware that whole batches of "slow" adhesive can "go off" rather rapidly when warmed somewhat due to an exothermic reaction which causes self heating while setting. Ask me how I know :-).

(6) Cyanoacrylate adhesives ("superglue") set when air is excluded and can have setting times of seconds to 10's of seconds. eg Loctite make a wide range with differing characteristics. These may or may not suit depending on your materials. Some materials use adhseiomn after longer periods when used with cyanoacrylates (eg glass) and the manufacturer's recommendations should be followed.

Any of the faster setting adhesives could be used in conjunction with a slower setting one. Mechanical retention in place while an adhesive sets may also be adequate.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Thanks for the detailed reply. Seems like epoxy is probably by best bet. Silicone - the bond probably isn't strong enough. CA - my experience with this glue is that it looks awful and isn't very strong. Hot melt - currently using hot melt for prototypes and am looking for a better solution. The bond needs to be strong and I was sort of fishing to see if there was a glue out there I might not know about :) \$\endgroup\$
    – BrianV
    Aug 24, 2012 at 22:08
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    \$\begingroup\$ @rhooligan - CA bonds extremely strongly with other materials, and very poorly with itself. If you have very, very tight-fitting surfaces, the bond will likely exceed the bulk material strength. On the other hand, if you have coarse fitting surfaces, the join will be very, very poor. It also can vaporise from the exothermic curing process, and the vapor can condense and solidify on nearby surfaces, which is probably what you had happen that gave you poor finished results. \$\endgroup\$ Jun 6, 2013 at 4:13
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    \$\begingroup\$ Basically, if you're in a situation where you need more then a drop or two to fill the gap between the things you are trying to bond, CA is not the glue you should be using. On the other hand, straight CA (not the gel stuff) has a very low viscosity, so that tiny drop can really flow into small cracks. \$\endgroup\$ Jun 6, 2013 at 4:16
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There are resins that can be 'Set' using U/V light. These can set in as little as 5 seconds with the correct wavelenth of U/V light, until then they are fluid. If you go to www.masterbond.com they have a wide range of these adhesives.

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If using epoxy, there is a device called a static mixer which will mix the epoxy in the nozzle so that you don't need to mix up a larger batch and have it set before the work is complete.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ The epoxy we ended up using is Scotch-weld DP125. \$\endgroup\$
    – BrianV
    Nov 17, 2016 at 22:45
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Silicon rubber is great for this task

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