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Blue is often linked with technology (e.g. "big blue", glowing pools of water with Cherenkov radiation, aliens in general, Nobel prizes for blue LEDs) as well as traditional things like sparks.

In a huge transformer "fire" event like this, what causes this blue light? Is it related to chemicals contained in the transformers the way chemicals affect the color of fireworks or how carbon molecules make many comets blue/green? Or is this really coming from huge electrical discharges through the air and certain spectral lines excited in nitrogen or oxygen compounds? What exactly makes this blue?

Video and audio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G4dYRcKnVE

BETTER video and audio, stars out variable yellow/orange but after about 1 minutue settles down to beautiful, calming, stable turquoise flames! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr7QkttzX-Q

Another video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRYblAiSQ_8

Images from CNN's A transformer explosion turned the New York City skyline blue

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    \$\begingroup\$ looks and sounds like an electric arc \$\endgroup\$ – jsotola Dec 28 '18 at 5:54
  • \$\begingroup\$ Feynman's Is Electricity Fire? ;-) \$\endgroup\$ – uhoh Dec 28 '18 at 5:58
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    \$\begingroup\$ Copper burns blue blue green depending on the structure. \$\endgroup\$ – Passerby Dec 28 '18 at 6:12
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    \$\begingroup\$ Not to be alarming, but Cherenkov radiation is about that colour. Any nuclear plants in the area? \$\endgroup\$ – glen_geek Dec 28 '18 at 14:56
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    \$\begingroup\$ That certainly sounds like current is still flowing while it is burning. \$\endgroup\$ – JRE Dec 28 '18 at 18:41
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It's copper ions!

Electric arcs (power arcs, not glow-discharge) produce continuum radiation of incandescent gas: white color, but with some wide line emissions spread out by thermal doppler, re Jacob's Ladder.

Note well that with the common "Jacob's Ladder" physics demonstration using a neon sign transformer, the flame-arc that crawls between the iron wires is white. Look at youtube videos of electric company arc-streamers during high-kilovolt line open. White. WHY WASN'T IT BLUE?!! The thermal continuum spectrum apparently dominates the line-emission of air glow-discharge. But this isn't always the case. Compare the venerable low-pressure sodium-arc lighting (bridge lights in SF Ca) with common high-pressure sodium arc streetlights.)

I came up with an interesting variant on Jacob's Ladder.

Make up some clingy gel with saltwater and white glue. Also try a bit of copper sulfate solution and glue, strontium nitrate and glue, or any other metal-salts fireworks colorants. Dot them in sequence along one of the iron wires of a Jacob's ladder (perhaps with large empty gaps between.) If you don't mention this to your audience, it becomes physics-magic trickery. When operated, when it hits the sodium chloride, the flame turns brilliant yellow. Totally expected, right? It hits the copper and lights up blue-green. The strontium gives brilliant magenta. Electrode contamination determines visible arc color.

During windstorms in Seattle, the horizon is lit by stuttering white glows. Those are downed power lines, or more likely just lines swinging together. White, not blue. But occasionally there is an extremely brilliant blue glow across the sky, sometimes for many seconds. Ah, that must be copper ions in the mix. Powerlines aren't copper, right? Aluminum iirc, or perhaps steel core with anti-rust alloy coat? To get the blue, the arc has to play across bare transformer windings, or leap between massive copper bussbars in a substation.

But shouldn't it be blue-green? Huh. I should look at the jacobs ladder again. Try some copper wire rather than the classic iron coathangers-with-paint-scraped-off. Maybe the blue is from line-widening at incandescent temperature? Or maybe vapor from copper metal gives different color than various copper salts?


PS, also try Jacobs Ladder with wires spiralled like DNA. Or do Gary Hawkins' version, with fine bare wire 20ft tall attached to the ceiling. At a distance the wire is invisible, so a mysterious flame is apparently rising unsupported through the air. I built one JL with one segmented conductor, and NE-2 bulbs between the segments. As the arc rose up, it lit the NE-2s in sequence, like a bar-graph display. Think of more! Nobody ever tries mutating the JL classroom HV demonstration. It's your excuse to futz with dangerous power-arcs. How about a long glass rod with a paper tuft soaked with metal salts, poked very briefly into JL arc by hand? Or, salt mist-spray coming from a distance. How long does the arc remain colored? Quite long time constant.

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Ionized nitrogen and oxygen in the air emit light in the blue and UV.

https://doi.org/10.1063/1.555546

Here's a link to a web site showing the spectra of a lightning flash (in air), showing the characteristic emission spectra of nitrogen at 500.5 nm (blue), and 568 nm (green). http://www.atoptics.co.uk/fz655.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nitrogen-glow.jpgVial of glowing ultrapure nitrogen, N2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nitrogen-glow.jpg)

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Since excited copper atoms make blue light as well, and in a powerful electrical discharge like this there is bound to be lots of very hot copper, is there any way to be sure this is due to nitrogen/oxygen and not the copper? See slide 9 here: slideplayer.com/slide/14014620 or google copper vapor laser for images \$\endgroup\$ – uhoh Dec 28 '18 at 11:53
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    \$\begingroup\$ Yep, I'm sure that there is some ionized copper vapour in the arc, but the arc is travelling through air and will ionize that as well. There is likely more of the arc in air, so there will be a larger contribution from the ionized nitrogen than copper. A sure way to identify the source of the light would be to examine the spectra of the light. Is the blue light similar to lightning? Google "power arcs" to see electrical arcs from (often aluminium conductors). \$\endgroup\$ – D Duck Dec 28 '18 at 11:56
  • \$\begingroup\$ There can be copper in the air that the arc is going through as well. Rather than google for you, I'll wait to see if you can show that, bright blue/green emission like this is produced by an arc without copper in your answer. Thanks! \$\endgroup\$ – uhoh Dec 28 '18 at 11:59
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    \$\begingroup\$ atoptics.co.uk/fz655.htm Shows the spectra of an arc in air. There is emission at 500 nm, (blue) and 568 nm (green). \$\endgroup\$ – D Duck Dec 28 '18 at 12:19
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    \$\begingroup\$ Yes, many things make blue light. I've named nitrogen and oxygen as possible sources as well as molecular carbon (C2) from transformer oil in the question. You've simply re-iterated one of them. Another comment pointed out yet another material present that also makes blue light. The purpose of asking this question is to ascertain which one it is with some certainty. \$\endgroup\$ – uhoh Dec 28 '18 at 12:28
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I agree with @wbeaty's answer and @Passerby's comment that it's probably related to the presence of copper vapor in the flames, though it could still be molecular carbon (C2) from transformer oil.

The pure bright turquoise color of the "flame" is quite steady and stable while the arcing sound is heard in the videos, then instantly disappears as soon as arcing sound stops, suggesting this is an arc, not a real flame. Nonetheless there are excited atoms and they emit light.

Copper

Copper has several strong emission lines in the blue and green and the resulting color depends a bit on the chemical state.

This Quora answer shows:

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left: "Cupric sulfate for bright green", right: "Cupric chloride for intense blue"

Copper vapor lasers seem to be a nice color match as well, and don't require the salt form:

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above: Screen shot from the very nice video 10W Copper Vapour Laser (CVL) - Operation and Theory

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above x2: From Sam's Laser Repair FAQ

But still not 100% sure...

Just a bunsen burner makes blue/green light as well, This may be C2 or CN molecules:

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Source

From Bunsen burner

Bunsen burner flames depend on air flow in the throat holes (on the burner side, not the needle valve for gas flow): 1. air hole closed (safety flame used for lighting or default), 2. air hole slightly open, 3. air hole half-open, 4. air hole fully open (roaring blue flame).

below: Vibronic spectroscopy From Spectrum_of_blue_flame

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below: "C/2014 Q2 (Lovejoy) is a long-period comet discovered on 17 August 2014 by Terry Lovejoy. " Source

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