# Obtain a Transfer Function from Bode Plot shown

I want to obtain a Transfer Function from the Bode Plots I already got the corner frequencies (approximates) and all the terms for my T.F. Then when I try to check my results in MATLAB my plot drops to -40 dB instead of -20 dB like in the original plot. • Looks like you have two zeroes at ~30 rad/s, not one at 30 rad/s and one at 40 rad/s – calcium3000 Jan 4 at 21:08
• Look at the high-frequency gain of your Bode plot -- the one you need to match is 0dB, yours is -5dB. If you assume that your poles are in the right spots, then you have three constraints for the three numerator terms: the DC gain, the high-frequency gain, and the gain at the bottom of the trough. You should be able to solve for the three coefficients directly, without worrying about the actual zero positions. – TimWescott Jan 4 at 21:17

## 2 Answers

A quick look at this shows a common factor of 10 between the first low-frequency pole (1.3 rad/s) and the first zero at 13 rads/s (slope is now 0) then the second zero (slope is +1) with a final second pole to set the slope back to 0. The below curves seem ok then: You can see the first pole when the phase crosses -45°, then the zero is not far otherwise the phase would further drop.

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The question is how did I get the first pole and the zero? I read the curve starting from the flat portion (0 dB) and then tried to identify the -3-dB point on the magnitude graph or the -45° on the phase plot. It is an approximation here and implies that the pole and the zero are well spread. Then, once the pole is obtained, I determined the magnitude of a pole-zero pair. I then solved for the zero position which brings a valley in the magnitude plot at -19.7 dB roughly read from the magnitude curve. Voilà ! You wrote the transfer function the right way, by keeping the poles and zeros well factored. This is what is called a low-entropy format in which a leading term would indicate what the gain is for $$\s=0\$$ in your case (1 or 0 dB). Writing these transfer functions the right way is part of the fast analytical circuits techniques or FACTs introduced many years ago. They describe how to determine transfer functions in a swift and efficient manner and how to format a transfer function so that poles, zeros and gain immediately show up when looking at the equation.

• sorry for asking, but I'm new to this Bode stuff, where did you get the first low-frequency pole value of 1.3 rad/s and the first zero at 13 rads/s? – DavidDM Jan 5 at 3:18
• @DavidDM, I've added a section in my answer. Let me know if you need further details. – Verbal Kint Jan 5 at 8:27

I disagree with your initial values of corner frequencies. I would say they are more likely to be closer to these values (roughly drawn at the lower and upper 3 dB points): - 