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  1. I am trying to the understand the important parameters of a common mode choke that will be placed at the CANL and CANH lines of a transceiver.

    First parameter: Impedance as function of frequency - I'm looking up the impedance value at 500 kHz in the graph, since my application data rate is 500 kbit/s. Is this right?

    Second parameter: Insulating resistance - how important is the insulating resistance between windings? In my understanding the more the insulating resistance is, the better the common mode choke is; is my understanding right? Also, how important is stray inductance? There is one other parameter called DC resistance (each line) given as a percentage. What parameter is this?

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  2. This question is regarding the CAN lines termination - in the split termination technique, there is a capacitor between the resistors connected to ground. In a lot of application notes that I've read, the value is always 4.7 nF for the capacitor, I'm trying to understand how this value is chosen.

    "EMC measurements have shown that the split termination is able to improve significantly the signal symmetry between CANH and CANL, thus reducing emission. Basically each of the two termination resistors is split into two resistors of equal value, i.e. two resistors of 60 ohm (or 62 ohm) instead of one resistor of 120 ohm. The special characteristic of this approach is that the common mode signal, available at the centre tap of the termination, is terminated to ground via a capacitor. The recommended value for this capacitor is in the range of 4,7 nF to 47 nF" - this is from the application note AH1014 Application Hints - Standalone high speed CAN transceiver TJA1042 / TJA1043 / TJA1048 / TJA1051

    How is this capacitor value quantified? Would it be okay to use 100 nF instead of 4.7 nF? I read a few more Texas Instruments documents where they have calculated the corner frequency of the RC filter - 1/2*piRC , and R is taken as 30 ohm, so the corner frequency for 4.7 nF is 1.1 MHz. Does this mean all the noise above 1.1 MHz is cutoff, so therefore if the capacitor value is increased the cutoff frequency decreases, for 100 nF - the cutoff frequency is around 50 kHz.

    Should the data rate of CAN be considered? The data rate is 500 kbit/s. Should the capacitor value be so selected that the cutoff frequency is above the data rate at all times?

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The termination value is independent of the used data rate. The bus needs to be terminated somewhere, but where it is terminated usually defines the integrator. The capacitor has to be a 4.7 nF 50 V X7R type (independent of the data rate).

a) (recommended)

Central bus termination. In one control unit: 2 x 33 Ω ±1% + 4.7 nF

High bus termination. In all other control units: 2 x 4.7 kΩ ±1% + 4.7 nF

b)

Special: Decentralised bus termination. In two control units: 2 x 62 Ω ±1%

The common mode choke is to improve EMI. Usually automotive companies define a list of allowed types.

Approved for 500 kbit/s:

TDK ACT45C-101-2P-TL000, ACT1210-101-2P-TL00

Approved for up to 5 Mbit/s:

TDK ACT1210R-101-2P, ACT45B-101-2P-TL003, ACT45B-101-2P-TL002 Epcos B82789-C0104-N002, B82789-C0104-N001, B82789-C0104-H052, B82789-C0104-H002, B82789-C0104-H001

Murata DLW43SH101XK2#

Connecting the split pin to the capacitor is not allowed in automotive applications any more. That's why the 0R is recommended. CH & CL are not allowed in automotive environments and even the ESD diode isn't allowed to be populated by default to avoid too much capacitive load due to the quite long cable length (also for 500 kbit/s).

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    \$\begingroup\$ Do you have a reference for split termination not being allowed in automotive applications? \$\endgroup\$ – Cursorkeys Jan 14 at 15:20
  • \$\begingroup\$ Sorry, I can't share the requirement docs. Go with the 0R resistor so you are flexible to disconnect it \$\endgroup\$ – schwdk Jan 15 at 20:16
  • \$\begingroup\$ @schwdk Thank you so much for your answer, but could you please let me know why "4.7nF 50V X7R" has to be used and how is it not dependent on the data rate ? And when you say approved, on what basis are these components approved ? It would be great if you could give an idea about this , suppose I have an alternate for the common mode chokes mentioned above, what are the important parameters that I have see ? May i know the reason for this "Connecting the Split pin to the capacitor is not allowed in automotive applications anymore" ? \$\endgroup\$ – NIDHI Jan 21 at 15:24
  • \$\begingroup\$ Its all about the EMI performance. The vehicle manufacturer only allow parts (Transceiver + common mode choke) on their vehicle CAN which have been measured by an EMI lab and stay within their very strict limits. If you do not build CAN bus for a vehicle you can also use different ones but these will work out of the box. They saw EMI issue with connected split. So go with the 0R and you are free to measeure EMI with and without connected split. \$\endgroup\$ – schwdk Jan 21 at 21:01
  • \$\begingroup\$ What application/industry sector do you have? The 4n7 filters high frequency noise which is an issue with high datarates. The noise does not effect low datarates that much. So 500kBits should work. The choke isolation voltage needs to withstand short to supply. (>36V in case of a vehicle) \$\endgroup\$ – schwdk Jan 21 at 21:18

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