Today I was learning about the negative feedback in the amplifier circuits and some quick ways of discovering whether a negative or a positive feedback exist in the circuit by finding a feedback loop and counting the number of pi-s (phase changes) that exist in that loop.
Going to the actual circuit in question here is an example from class
Clearly, there is feedback in the circuit. I know in advance that phase shift of a bjt transistor are: BE=0, BC=pi, EC=0.
Now i need to determine the loop and count the number of pi-s that exist inside the loop to determine which feedback it is. To me a logical way of determining this was going from Vout to the input and back and i did it like this:
LOOP: Vout -> BJT 2 CE (0) -> R5 (0) -> BJT 1 BC (pi) -> BJT 2 BC (pi) -> Vout which makes the total equal 2pi which would make it a positive feedback.
This is however not the way they showed the loop in class as the went like this:
LOOP: BJT 2 C -> R5 (0) -> BJT 1 BC (pi) -> BJT 2 BE (0) -> BJT 2 C and the result is pi which makes it a positive feedback.
Why is my way of finding a loop wrong and theirs right? Isn't the loop always from Vout to Vin or is there something I'm not understanding here?
I'm primarily in understanding this method rather than calculating and figuring out the sign.