1
\$\begingroup\$

I'm designing a solenoid powering and control device which is centered around the LTC3862-2 Step Up controller (see datasheet). I have taken as a design start point the typical application shown in page 38 of the datasheet. I have only modified the resistor divider values in order to get a 40 V output (316 kOhm and 10kOhm) instead of the 80V shown in this typical application.

My requirements are:

  • Vin= from 6 to 8.4 Volts
  • Vout= 40 Volts
  • Iout= 2.5 Amps

Plus, the basic circuit schematic is shown below:

schematic

simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

The problem comes when I activate the solenoid. Instead of having the 40V/2.5A from the step up, there is a sudden decline from the moment M1 closes from 40V to 24V, plus the current is only about 1.5A. As a result, the solenoid is far from moving the mechanism it is meant to. When the load is not connected, the output is stable at 40V.

Additionally these are other measures from the experiment:

  • Battery voltage under load= 8.3V @ 5.5A (LiPo battery can deliver more than 30 A continuously).
  • M1 transistor source(GND) to gate voltage 4.8V (transistor datasheet)

Do you know what is happening or the reason of this behavior? Can you think of a solution to avoid this output voltage drop?

Any help is very much appreciated. Thank you in advance!

----Edit: Schematics----

Hi guys, sorry for not posting thee aactual schematics. Here I attaach the typpical application from the IC datasheet as well as the schematic from the board I have manufactured.Page 32 from LTC3862-2 datasheet

From this schematic, I have only made this minor modifications:

  • Changed output caps to 100uF 63V since output voltage for this application is 40V.
  • Input capacitors changed from 50 to 16V since input voltage range is 6-8.4V.
  • Resistor divider to FB pin in order to have 40V output (12.4 kOhm to 10 kOhm and 796 kOhm to 316 kOhm).

This results in this schematic:

Own schematic

Hope this sheds more light. Thank you very much!

\$\endgroup\$
  • \$\begingroup\$ What does your schematic look like? DC to DC converters have a source impedance, and cannot source current instantaneously. I also don't see any filter caps in the design either \$\endgroup\$ – Voltage Spike Jul 12 '19 at 14:41
  • \$\begingroup\$ The LTC3862-2 is a very complex device and numerous things can affect the output current (including the input voltage range - see the headline circuit for max current at various Vin values) and output voltage. Please post the entire schematic as otherwise it is impossible to help. \$\endgroup\$ – Peter Smith Jul 12 '19 at 14:56
  • \$\begingroup\$ Make sure your current loop is as short as possible to create a low impedance path. Also, solenoids have a "pick" current and a "hold" current. Adding some low inductance & low ESR bulk capacitance right next to the solenoid will significantly help you get the pick current to activate the solenoid. \$\endgroup\$ – Aaron Jul 12 '19 at 16:03
  • \$\begingroup\$ Do you have an oscilloscope? If yes, can you post the supply voltage and the current when the glitch happens? If you don't have one, you'd better ask a friend or someone, because an SMPS is not a trivial thing, despite the simplistic looks of the schematic. \$\endgroup\$ – a concerned citizen Aug 20 at 20:50
0
\$\begingroup\$

Your layout may have a bit to do with it (you can share it if you want more info). As well as needing bulk capacitance on the solenoid.

The boost converter has a finite source impedance, as does the layout. By adding a large capacitance right next to the solenoid, you effectively get an additional very low impedance source (for a limited time). I would suggest adding several caps in parallel to create around 1000uF as a start. That will keep the total ESR lower. To get better values, you'll need to measure the current waveform through the inductor at turn on. If you don't have a current probe, you can place a non-inductive 0.1Ω (or smaller) resistor in series from the M1 source to ground connection, then use ohms law to convert to amps.

schematic

simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

| improve this answer | |
\$\endgroup\$
  • \$\begingroup\$ Hi @Aaron . In fact, I tried the circuit you suggest, placing a high capacity cap (C2 in your schematic). It was 4700 uF 63V. However, there was not enough power being delivered to the solenoid and the drop on output voltage upon circuit activation was still present. \$\endgroup\$ – Sergi MF Jul 15 '19 at 9:16

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service, privacy policy and cookie policy

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.