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I need to pass a USB cable through a vacuum chamber wall, for which we have only D-SUB passthrough flanges available. So I cut a USB cable in half and soldered a D-SUB connector to each half. For USB 2.0 connections, this works without any issues, but I've had troubles getting a USB 3.0 connection to work.

Specifically, the computer emits the connect/disconnect sound repeatedly every few seconds when the cable is plugged in. The only workaround is to push the connector in slowly, until the device is recognised, essentially forcing a USB 2.0 connection.

I assume this is due to insufficient shielding to get a USB 3.0 link?

The individual connections seem to be fine, with <3Ω resistance for each one and no shorts. Below is a diagram of how I routed the cables through the connector:

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As shown in the figure, the shield is connected to the shell of the connector to connect the shield on both sides together. I tried to keep the amount of destroyed shielding low, with around 3cm on either side removed.

What is the most likely cause for this failure, and how to avoid it in the future, if possible?

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    \$\begingroup\$ Depending on what you're trying to pass, a wireless solution might be possible and advisable. \$\endgroup\$ Jul 22, 2019 at 11:30
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    \$\begingroup\$ Just curious -- what are you doing inside a vacuum chamber that requires SuperSpeed data rates? \$\endgroup\$
    – Dave Tweed
    Jul 22, 2019 at 11:32
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    \$\begingroup\$ Your D-Sub connector and cable are like a bump on the road: at low speeds, it doesn't matter much. When running over it with a Ferrari at 200kph, it breaks everything. \$\endgroup\$
    – dim
    Jul 22, 2019 at 11:48
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    \$\begingroup\$ @DaveTweed We have high-resolution cameras inside the chamber - for the ones I'm using at the moment, USB 2.0 is enough, but we have newer ones that need USB 3.0 speeds to work with acceptable frame-rates. \$\endgroup\$
    – Lukas Lang
    Jul 22, 2019 at 16:28
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    \$\begingroup\$ Interesting. One of my clients builds dewar assemblies for high-speed, high-resolution IR cameras, and they wouldn't dream of putting anything other than the bare sensor chip inside the vacuum chamber. The chip is bonded out to a ceramic substrate, which then sends the signals through the wall using individual terminals. You're putting the entire camera, electronics and all, in there? Tell us more! \$\endgroup\$
    – Dave Tweed
    Jul 22, 2019 at 16:40

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I assume this is due to insufficient shielding to get a USB 3.0 link?

It's more likely that you simply introduce an impedance break so significant by separating the conductor pairs of the superspeed conductors that communication can't properly take place.

What is the most likely cause for this failure, and how to avoid it in the future, if possible?

As said, you can't just separate the conductors of USB3 arbitrarily: the signal is carried as electromagnetic field between the conductors; because the signal frequencies of USB3 are solidly within the microwave range, your splitting of conductor pair essentially means you break the transport of energy.

You probably won't be able to solve this situation using your current D-SUB connectors at all. You'll need to replace these connectors with ones that at least approximately retain the nominal 90Ω impedance of USB3 SS connector pairs. It's pretty likely the easiest way to achieve that is through USB3 connectors themselves.

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    \$\begingroup\$ Thank you very much for your answer and the detailed explanation! It's a bit unfortunate that it most likely won't work, but at least now I know why. (P.S.: I'll accept the answer once 24h have passed, assuming you have a similar "rule" on this site) \$\endgroup\$
    – Lukas Lang
    Jul 22, 2019 at 16:35
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    \$\begingroup\$ Yep, we generally go with the 24h rule here like other SE sites. \$\endgroup\$ Jul 22, 2019 at 17:44
  • \$\begingroup\$ If you're careful, you MIGHT get away with USB 2.0. You'd want to keep the spread-out leads from the cable to the pins as short as possible. It's probably worth a try. By the same token you can TRY doing this with 3.0 - just don't have any expectation of success. \$\endgroup\$ Jul 23, 2019 at 3:45
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    \$\begingroup\$ @WhatRoughBeast As noted in the question, USB 2.0 luckily doesn't seem to be problematic - so for now all devices are simply operated at USB 2.0 speeds \$\endgroup\$
    – Lukas Lang
    Jul 23, 2019 at 16:39
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The problem with DB-9 connector is that it is not "impedance controlled" and has no shield between signal pairs (you need to use differential pairs through the connector and shield them from other diff pairs). USB 3.0 operates at 2.5 GHz signal rate, and "3 cm loose wire" is a kill for it. Impedance mismatch creates multitude of signal reflections (causing so-called "inter-symbol interference"), and significant cross-talk between Rx and Tx pairs will kill signal coherency causing massive link drops. USB 3.x specifications have very strngent requirements for impedance and near- and far-end crosstalks over the cable.

To have USB 3.x connection with your internal camera, you need either to do a heavy search for vacuum-grade USB connectors (if they exists, they might), or use RF-grade 50-Ω coaxial multi-pin feed-through connectors, space-grade. There are twin-axial Sub-D size connectors, you need at least two twinaxial channels, similar to this one:

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You also could use connectors used for ethernet connectivity, if you can find them in vacuum grade version, something like this

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In worst case you can use four feed-through SMA-type connectors, and make a USB-to-SMA adapter, similar to what USB-IF uses in interconnect testing and cable certification, something like this:

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Some sources for vacuum-grade feed-through solutions are Pave Technology, MDC Vacuum Products, and likely many others.

In any case I see no chance to have a reliable USB SuperSpeed channel using DB-9 connectors, and you will need a serious rework on your chamber.

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There are two problems here:

1) A USB cable is hot swappable, meaning the power pins are engaged first (they are longer than the data pins). A d-sub connector is not built for hot plugging, the pins are all the same length and some engage first depending on the angle that the D-sub is plugged in and is potentially causing problems

2) The impedance of the differential lines (as previously mentioned) needs to be 90Ω, otherwise the fast differential signals will reflect and attenuate if not properly matched. The connector also needs to be impedance controlled to pass fast signals through it.

The USB 3.0 spec uses low-frequency signaling (10-50 MHz) to initiate a link with the other side. SFP+ transceivers usually don’t cover this range, at least not in their datasheets (it’s more like 300-2500 MHz or so). So this vital signal may not reach the other side properly, and hence the link establishment may fail. Source: http://billauer.co.il/blog/2015/12/usb-superspeed-parallel/

The problem with your d-sub is it probably has a capacitance\inductance simmilar to the ones shown below, and not fast enough to pass the fast 2.5GHz signaling of USB 3.0

enter image description here Source: https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/66098.pdf

So what can you do about it?

If you don't have to have USB 3.0, you may want to try using only the GND, Vcc, D+ and D- lines. If hot plugging of the D-sub can be avoided that might be best (plug in the connector that goes to the hub).

They also make UHV compatible USB 3.0 port feedthroughs if you want to drill another hole in your plate or find another way to pipe it in.

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Here just to warn others and say that trying the USB3.0 vacuum flange could not be the end of the story.

I tried all of them: Kurt Lesker, MDCprecision, VACOM. All of them do not satisfy 3.0 requirements. I did several tests, with same cable and other adapters. All these flanges are faulty. It seems that there is problem in the production process and some parasitic inductances and capacitances do not allow the feedthrough to work at 3.0 but they bring it down to USB 2.0 (this is what I've been told by VACOM).

A possible solution is to buy the USB to SMA converter.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ A "USB 3.0" flange, given the amount of money you pay for it, should come with test results that quantify the signal integrity using normal USB requirements. They should plot the eye pattern and connection statistics from an analyzer. Without these, you're buying junk, and the manufacturer has no idea what they are doing. Ideally these flanges should have independent 3rd party USB compliance testing results. \$\endgroup\$ Jul 8, 2022 at 23:48
  • \$\begingroup\$ I too have had bad experiences with high pressure sma passthroughs - we found the impedience to be dodgy and when we confronted the manufacturer they came back with “oh if you care about he impedience you need to pay extra for tested ones”. Tell me why would I buy an sma connector and NOT care for the impedience though? Fools. \$\endgroup\$
    – Bryan
    Jul 9, 2022 at 2:52
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Kubahasn'tforgottenMonica they tests on sample devices, but they don't send tested equipment. Obviously we didn't pay any of them and returned back to the producers. \$\endgroup\$
    – 081N
    Jul 9, 2022 at 9:13
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Bryan I'm sad to hear that SMA suffers of the very same problem. I'm my case no one offered an "extra-fee" solution for testing. \$\endgroup\$
    – 081N
    Jul 9, 2022 at 10:54

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