# Why is there a big difference between the temperature parameters of these regulators with the same name?

I have two datasheets for the same TL780–05C regulator one from Texas Instruments and another from MOTOROLA. I'm looking at the data for the TO-220 packages.

I need to estimate the total junction temperature without a heat-sink, and for that I will use the following formula:

Since I calculated the power loss P and know the max ambient temperature TA; what I need now is the parameter called θJA which is the thermal resistance between the junction temperature TJ and the ambient temperature TA.

Almost all basic parameters like the max output current, max junction temperature ect. are exactly the same. The inner circuit representative schematic diagrams look a bit different.

Now for the one from MOTOROLA the temperature parameters are given as:

And here is the temperature section from Texas Instruments:

My question is: These two regulators have exactly the same names where normally I would think all their critical parameters are very close. But the θJA differs a lot; one is given as 62.5°C/W and the other is as 19°C/W. This is a ratio of more than three. Is this something expected and usual or am I interpenetrating something wrong here?

(It is only by accident I came across this otherwise I would take granted that the θJA would be the same value no matter who the manufacturer is)

• if one regulator has been thinned before packaging (from the standard 300 micron to 100 micron) and the other regulator die thickness remains full thickness, this explains some of the difference. If the power_dissipation transistor, which is a big part of the die area and thus constraining the COST, were to differ 3:1, you've have a higher junction-case rating. – analogsystemsrf Nov 14 '19 at 16:27
• TI datasheet from TI vs Motorola datasheet from third party. I'd say that answers any question. Sometimes competition makes poor performing parts obsolete. – StainlessSteelRat Nov 14 '19 at 16:32
• @StainlessSteelRat Um.... no. The TI part is from 1971, and was probably produced under a multi-sourcing agreement. Motorola used to be one of the big players in semiconductors, and the semiconductor department just got renamed to Freescale in 2004, and merged with NXP in 2015... – Marcus Müller Nov 14 '19 at 16:43
• @MarcusMüller The discrete components were spun off into On Semi (Freescale got the processor line) – Peter Smith Nov 14 '19 at 16:51
• ah, makes sense. – Marcus Müller Nov 14 '19 at 16:51

This board provides conductive cooling through the lead frame, reducing the thermal resistance $$\\theta_{JA}\$$ compared to a test done with the part resting in still air or mounted on a board with minimal thermal conductivity.