# Why doesn't KVL work for the bottom loop? I was doing a practice problem. I calculated the correct value for i_a = -2.4 A. But I used KVL on the bottom loop to get R, and got the inverse of the answer that I actually needed. My equation was -5*ia - 6V + 18*-6R = 0. There is no current flow from the current source above to the loop below.

According to the solutions, I needed to use voltage division to get the correct answer, but I was wondering why is this the case? I could get the correct solution with current division but I don't get why KVL doesn't work for this loop.

• The current through the unknown resistor is 6/R, not 6R. – The Photon Dec 24 '19 at 2:23
• Photon, you got the answer please post it as one. – Juan Dec 24 '19 at 2:24
• But yes, this should give the same result as jumping to the voltage divider formula, since the voltage divider formula can be derived from KVL. – The Photon Dec 24 '19 at 2:24
• @jsotola because it is a CCVS – Tony Stewart EE75 Dec 24 '19 at 2:32
• You write " I could get the correct solution with current division" - but how??? There is no current division in the lower loop. It's a simple series circuit! – brhans Dec 24 '19 at 2:36

My equation was -5*ia - 6V + 18*-6R = 0

The current through the unknown resistor is not $$\6R\$$, it's $$\6/R\$$. So you should have

$$-5i_a - 6\ {\rm V} -\left(18\ \Omega\right)\left(\frac{6\ {\rm V}}{R}\right)=0$$

(I've assumed the blue probe of the voltmeter is the positive probe, because otherwise you're going to end up with a negative resistor value)

(Also, notice that if you had included the units in your equation, you would have seen right away that you were adding a voltage to a term with units of $$\[\Omega^2V]\$$, so the equation can't be correct)

You will get the same result by using the resistor divider formula

$$6\ {\rm V} = -5i_a\frac{R}{R+18\ \Omega}$$

because the resistor divider formula can be derived from KVL and Ohm's Law.

• Thanks, I see my mistake now. – aX10m Dec 24 '19 at 5:48