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I am interested in using the SLB03070LR35 cell, which is a tiny cell that can handle 20C charge rate. What kind of charge controller can I use to recharge such a small cell? Would an LDO set to 2.8V with a current limiting resistor (120 Ohm, limits to 7mA from 2V dead cell to 2.8V max charge) be acceptable?

https://www.nichicon.co.jp/_assets/pdf/products/slb/en_specification1.pdf

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Does this answer your question? Homemade Li-ion charger \$\endgroup\$ Apr 4 '20 at 1:30
  • \$\begingroup\$ there's really a lot of "can I charge my Lithium Cell using a self-made power supply" questions, and the answer to these has always, and will always be: charging unprotected lithium cells like yours takes precautions and a charger that senses the state of the cell. You can't do it with a voltage or current supply alone. \$\endgroup\$ Apr 4 '20 at 1:32
  • \$\begingroup\$ From the very low voltage, I guess that is a lithium iron phosphate battery? Those are somewhat safer than conventional lithium ion cells (for example the manufacturer shows images of smashed and punctured cells stating that they will not explode). However, I wouldn't try 20C charging with a resistor. \$\endgroup\$ Apr 4 '20 at 3:40
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    \$\begingroup\$ @MarcusMüller Because these cells have a different (and safer) chemistry, I would regard this as not a duplicate question. \$\endgroup\$ Apr 4 '20 at 12:34
  • \$\begingroup\$ @BrianDrummond I see, and seeing your extensive answer: retracted. \$\endgroup\$ Apr 4 '20 at 12:36
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You are looking for chargers and/or BMS adapted for "Lithium Titanate" aka LTO cells, though I've never seen one that small before!

They are even less common (so far) than Lithium Iron Phosphate.

What's not to like : in bulk, only the lower capacity per kg (which isn't a real issue here, but makes them less attractive for cars). Currently also more expensive per amp hour capacity, but over 20000 cycles they pay you back handsomely for that.

By reputation they are also a lot safer (less fire risk) and work over a wide temperature range. IMO they could be a game changer where weight is less important and lifetime is, e.g. for power grid storage. I discussed the economics a bit here and that has only improved since. If you get 2 cycles a day out of them (for the morning and evening peak demand) the economics of grid storage start to look attractive.

Here's a slightly bigger one, with quite a lot of information. These cells seem to be popular in China, perhaps for grid applications. BMS adapted for these are available.

I have only limited experience so far, but : Treat roughly as Li-Ion except for the voltages. That is :

  • charge at constant current (CC) until the terminal voltage, then CV until current has fallen to some fraction of the CC value, then cut off charging.
  • Discharge until undervoltage cutoff point
  • Don't float charge or leave discharged
  • Ideally, balance cells with a BMS (maybe not so important with such small cells)

Limit voltages : 2.8V charging. Most sources say 1.6V discharging, this says 1.8.

Charge cutoff point : Russell is effectively suggesting 100% of the CC value which will be safe, simple, and probably fine for your aplication, but 50% or 25% should give you a few more % capacity if that's worth the complexity.

In practice there's not a lot to be gained above 2.6 or 2.7V, or below 1.8V and using these should reduce wear and only lose a couple percent capacity. Most of the action happens between 2.3 and 2.0V, so treat "2.4V" as a little optimistic, and 6 cells is a better match for a 12V (car) battery than 5 cells.

And to answer your actual question : if you augment your suggested charger with current detection (measure voltage across the current limit resistor) and some means to cutoff charging when current falls to (your choice of value) you should be fine. (I would add a timeout: say 4 or 5 minutes since 20C is 3 minutes, as a safety measure if practical).

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Ah. LTO - of course. Thanks. I haven't encountered them "in the flesh" yet. So my charging advice is OK - but knowing what one is dealing with helps. I like your "larger one". 45 Ah cells, 450A peak discharge. They say discharge to -50C! 12 = $US600/kWh - reasonably good IF they are any good. 10 minutes standard charge. \$\endgroup\$
    – Russell McMahon
    Apr 4 '20 at 12:10
  • \$\begingroup\$ @RussellMcMahon Naturally you have to watch the vendor. I bought cheaper "45Ah" cells elsewhere and they were 33Ah. I must say I was impressed my 20Ah pouch cells maintained well over 90% of their charge when I left them for a year. \$\endgroup\$ Apr 4 '20 at 12:31
  • \$\begingroup\$ @BrianDrummond thanks for the response! Why is float charging not suggested with this type of cell? \$\endgroup\$
    – EasyOhm
    Apr 4 '20 at 20:16
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    \$\begingroup\$ @EasyOhm Std LiIon batteries are charged to 4.2V max. If floated at that voltage they will be damaged and then destroyed. Slightly higher V will plate out metallic Lithium - which you REALLY do not want. At say 4.1V you can float a std LiIon indefinitely and safer still at 4.0V. At 4.1V you get maybe 90% of full mAh capacity and say 70-80% at 4.0V. But the cycle life and whole of lifetime mAh stored goes up usefully. Mars Rovers and siliar run at about 3.85V (from memory with somewhat under 50% of full capacity BUT about 8000 cycle life (!!!) LTO will have similar "rules" but what they are .. \$\endgroup\$
    – Russell McMahon
    Apr 4 '20 at 23:43
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    \$\begingroup\$ is generally unknown. You can do your own tests by charging to say 2.8V and then discharging at constant I and measuring time, then repeat while decreasing Vmax in say 0.05V steps.As you can do 10C charge & discharge cycles this should not take much time. | Charging & discharging any cell at high rates will lower mAh capacity but nowhere near as much for LiIon as for eg NiCd, NiMH, LAcid etc. LTO also probably not so bad. \$\endgroup\$
    – Russell McMahon
    Apr 4 '20 at 23:46
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As Bryan notes, these are LTO (Lithium Titanate) batteries, a relatively new addition to the Lithium secondary cell range.

Advantages include 25,000 cycle life, 20C charge and discharge rates, and operation down to -30C for this version - and down to a claimed -50C for some versions. .
What's not to like? In this case - price, and very low capacity. For larger cells (eg see Bryan's link) the capacities can be much larger (eg 40 Ah in a single cell) and the cost per kWh is a few years behind LiIon pricing but still acceptable.

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Based on the available data:

Simple charger:

Based on specifications you could charge at up to 7 mA (somewhat less is probably wise) until a terminal voltage of 2.8V is reached and then immediately stop charging.

A suitable charger could be implemented with a 7 mA (or less) constant current source (eg LM317 and one resistor) followed by a 2.8V regulator plus a comparator that determines when the cell reaches 2.8V and terminates charging.

The voltage regulator is essentially only a precaution. A say 5 mA current source and a charge terminate comparator would serve as well if the battery was connected to the current source before the source was powered on.

Full CCCV charger

In the datasheet below the charge/discharge graphs it says
"Charge CC-CV: CC at 1C to 2.8V then CV to 0.05C, at 25 C
So you could charge at 0.35 mA (!) unto Vbat = 2.8V then hold at 2.8V until Icharge drops to 17.5 uA. I suspect that a CC charge as above would suffice in most cases. Note that the stated 0.05C termination current is for road warrior full state of charge. Stopping at say 0.1C or 0.2C or higher will not reduce capacity by much amd will probably usefully extend cycle life and whole of life mAh storage.

Application Note of sorts October 2019

Product sheet - highly interesting 2pp here


LTO characteristics are substantially different from standard LiIon, LiPo or LiFePO4 chemistries.

  • 1.8V - 2.8V voltage range

  • 20C charge and discharge rates

  • Operation down to -30C (-30 to +60 C operating range)

  • 5+ times higher power (but not energy) density than standard LiIon

  • 25,000 cycle life !!! to 80% capacity. (About 75 years at one cycle per day).


Costs for this very small capacity cell are an arm and a leg, relatively
$7.32/1 Digikey for 0.35 mAh version here
No Digikey prices for the other versions :-(.

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