# What advantages does the Darlington pair have over the Sziklai pair?

With all the free time I've had lately due to current events, I've found myself looking into analog amplifier design and analysis (if it helps provide context, my area of expertise is power electronics, where we try to avoid amplifying modes entirely, preferring fully-off and fully-on), so I've ended up with quite a few questions about them.

The Darlington pair configuration for bipolar transistors has one major, and immediately obvious, flaw: its base-emitter junction voltage is double that of a single bipolar transistor. On the other hand, the Sziklai pair has the same $$\V_{BE,on}\$$ as a single BJT, and still has the multiplied current gain.

So why do amplifiers seem to prefer Darlington over Sziklai pairs? You can even get Darlington pairs packaged to be used as a single transistor, but I've never seen this for a Sziklai pair. Does the Sziklai pair have some performance disadvantages that a cursory examination would miss, or is it merely that silicon PNP transistors are more expensive than NPN ones of similar characteristics?

• Read the section Sziklai Transistor Pair in electronics-tutorials.ws/transistor/darlington-transistor.html. It sums several advantages and drawbacks Apr 8 '20 at 18:22
• This would seem to be the disadvantage, from Huisman's link: "However, the Sziklai configuration can not saturate to less than one whole diode drop, i.e. 0.7v instead of the usual 0.2v." This would be a problem in a high-power switch. Also, it requires both P- and N-type transistors, so it would be more expensive to make. Apr 8 '20 at 18:30
• @hacktastical Doesn't that also happen in a Darlington transistor? I just tested in a simulator and it seems to be the case. Apr 8 '20 at 19:42
• @Sparky256 Sorry, I'm not sure what breadboards have to do with this? Jun 19 '20 at 11:39

I give this a shot, not because I am the expert but because there is no response and I have some experience.

My understanding is that the Sziklai had a problem with the availability of the PNP power transistor matched with the NPN. So people used the quasi-complementary push-pull design. But that was half a century ago, and now there is no problem getting a matched pair of power NPN and PNPs.

However, I find myself having trouble with Sziklai, it's unstable, at least when just doing it in the most simple way.

I just built up both of the designs myself, and I find that the low side of the quasi-complementary pair is already identical with the low side of the Sziklai. But the high side is different.

Quasi-Complementary Push Pull:

simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

Sziklai Push-Pull:

simulate this circuit

When I bread-boarded this to experiment, I found that the quasi-complementary with the Darlington configuration on the high side, there was some loss of voltage on the high side. But it worked really nicely and completely automatic with only an op-amp doing the driving and getting rid of any cross-over distortion.

What you see here is the end stage output sine wave, nice, and the cross-over distortion compensating output from the op-amp OA3.

But when I re-configured the high side to Sziklai, I got a terrible instability on the high side. Instead of a wave I get some Schrödinger cloud on the upper half. Very wild, and nothing I could do to fix this.

One guy on the EEVblog forum said to put a capacitor between collector and base of the power PNP, I tried with 22 pF to no avail. Tried 33 pF, then with 100 nF it seemed to help, but soon my transistors started to overheat. I don't know if I did anything wrong, I don't think so.

If it wasn't for this instability the Sziklai pair would be really cool, as you could actually for once use the tab of the TO-220 package, as the collectors of the high and low side are connected together. So you could screw them straight onto the heat sink and use the heat sink as the speaker output ... as long as you separate it from the ground.