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I would like to design (or to calculate the existing of) an induction motor, either 3 phases or single phase. I understand that both stator and the rotor made from a stacked-laminated high permeability steel lamination, intended to reduce Eddy's current. It is said that the thinner the steel lamination, the better. But how exactly to calculate or to quantify the (performance/efficiency) improvement, I have no clue. So, how can I calculate it? Say that I would like to design an 0.5 HP induction motor, either 3 phases or single phase. If the calculation for both are different, then just simply take the single phase as it is the mostly used for low output power.

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Eddy-current losses are proportional to the square of the lamination thickness. The effect on machine efficiency will be very difficult to quantify since you must know what percentage of the total losses are eddy-current losses. The eddy-current losses are closely approximated by: Loss = K x (B x f x t)^2 where K is a proportionality constant for the lamination material, B is maximum flux density, f is frequency, and t is lamination thickness. Specifications for the lamination material should provide loss information, in a form that can be used with that equation.

The eddy-current losses of the rotor are probably negligible under normal operating conditions because eddy-current losses are also proportional to the square of the frequency, and the rotor frequency at rated load is on the order of 3% of the power frequency.

It might be possible to find a typical breakdown of the percentages of the various losses for an induction motor. However, induction motors are designed with a variety of design types, ratings and performance objectives. Power ratings range from less than 100 watts to more than ten million watts. That would lead to a significant variation in the breakdown of losses.

Re comment: "I can not accept your answer as I can not verify." Fitzgerald, Kingsley et al. has been a highly respected text since it was first published in 1952. Here is an image from the 6th edition:

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Here is a similar image from Thomas A. Lipo, Introduction to AC Machine Design, 2017 IEEE enter image description here

I believe these equations were developed empirically. The Horizon Technology equation cited in the comment is for combined hysteresis and eddy-current losses for a different type of material. The equation they use for the conventional lamination steel also combines hysteresis and eddy current losses using an equation that is very similar to the textbook equations.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ 1). Do you have reference to support that formula, especially to explain the value of that K? 2). Will that formula apply to a conventional transformer? Here frequency is 50Hz. \$\endgroup\$
    – Sitorus
    Oct 30, 2020 at 20:25
  • \$\begingroup\$ The equation is from Fitzgerald, Kingsley, Umans "Electric Machinery" 4th ed. "Ke depends on the units used, the volume of the iron, and the resistivity of the iron." \$\endgroup\$
    – user80875
    Oct 30, 2020 at 21:46
  • \$\begingroup\$ I can not accept your answer as I can not verify. Moreover, I got here <horizontechnology.biz/blog/…> a different explanation, the formula is much different even it get some similar part. There mentioned that the hysteresis and eddy current losses is calculated with this formula: Ptot = 0.063*freq*B^1.75 + 0.000027*freq^2*B^2 + (B^2*freq^2*thickness in mm)/(1.26E06*density) \$\endgroup\$
    – Sitorus
    Nov 5, 2020 at 1:39
  • \$\begingroup\$ What ever you prefer is fine. \$\endgroup\$
    – user80875
    Nov 5, 2020 at 3:21
  • \$\begingroup\$ Thank you Sir for your additional info and the image of the book you inserted. What I mean I can not verify was due to I could not get the book or I could not get other confirmation about it. But after this picture, I am now think that it is true and I accept your answer. \$\endgroup\$
    – Sitorus
    Nov 9, 2020 at 2:56

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