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I don't understand what Parasitic Properties: This is an active load means in LTSpice provided as an option in the current source configuration window. I plotted out the schematics, one with the active load checked and the other without, and compared their traces. Without being checked as an "active load", the current source behaves just like how a current source should be - supplying a constant 2A current (upper schematic). If I then checked the "active load", current stays at 2A only when \$ V_1 > 0.5V \$, and if \$ V_1 = -2V \$, the current source miraculously supplies -16A!

  1. It makes no sense to me that the current source can sink 16A while I've already fixed it a DC value of \$ I_1 = \$ 2A - where is this extra 12A comes from?
  2. I don't understand how a load can be modeled as a current source. Isn't a load a component or a sub-circuit that sinks current and dissipates energy? Current source supplies energy to the circuit - how could it supply and dissipate energy at the same time (i.e. suppling 2A current to the circuit but dissipates \$ 16A*2V=32W \$ ?!

Perhaps a related question here: LTSpice active load current generator soft saturation

Current Source Active Load

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Did you take a look at the built-in help page for I - Current Source? There's a little blurb in there that says this: "When flagged as a load, the current source starts to deviate from a constant current when the voltage across it drops to 0.5V. The impedance eventually drops to a resistance equal to .25Ω/amp times the value of the current source." \$\endgroup\$
    – Ste Kulov
    Commented Jan 6, 2021 at 17:53
  • \$\begingroup\$ @SteKulov these lines are wildly confusing. I can set internal resistance for voltage source, but there's no impedance to be set for current source in LTSpice. Shouldn't an ideal current source has 0 impedance anyway? Then that goes back to my question - how could a current source acts as a load - a load should be a resistor \$\endgroup\$
    – KMC
    Commented Jan 7, 2021 at 15:43
  • \$\begingroup\$ @KMC It would do you good to know some basics. One of them is that in SPICE, current sources are meant to generate the prescribed current no matter what, even if both ends of the current source are grounded. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Jan 8, 2021 at 16:28

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The answer is in the LTspice built-in Help document, but I thought it was worthwhile to explain WHY this is the answer and the context for it. First, here is the relevant blurb in the LTspice Help under I. Current Source:

This circuit element sources a constant current between nodes n+ and n-. If the source is flagged as a load, the source is forced to be dissipative, that is, the current goes to zero if the voltage between nodes n+ and n- goes to zero. The purpose of this option is to model a current load on a power supply that doesn't draw current if the output voltage is zero. When flagged as a load, the current source starts to deviate from a constant current when the voltage across it drops to 0.5V. The impedance eventually drops to a resistance equal to .25Ω/amp times the value of the current source.

What this is saying is that when the voltage across the current source drops below 0.5V, then its I-V curve soft-switches from a line with zero-slope (constant current) into a line with positive-slope (resistor). To illustrate this, we can use a behavioral current source to model something similar using the if(x,y,z) statement defined below. The main differences here is it will be a hard-switch between the two curves, and the switch-point is 0.25V instead of 0.5 to keep the curve continuous. I offset the plots below by 100mA so the lines wouldn't be directly on top of each other in order to see them clearly.

I=if(V(sweep)*2,2,V(sweep)/(0.25/2))

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So, what is the purpose of even having such a feature? Active loads are useful in the simulation of switch-mode power supplies and other circuits where you have capacitors charging and discharging (among other things). Since LTspice is heavily geared toward SMPS simulation, it makes much sense to include a simplified model of an active load. The key property of an active load is its "compliance voltage". This is the point where the voltage across it drops below its ability to keep the current a flat line (i.e. constant). It appears LTspice's simplified model has this value always fixed at 0.5V without the ability to change it. Another thing to keep in mind is that these types of load enforce the condition that there is zero current when there is zero voltage, or said another way, the curve crosses the (0V, 0A) point. You can see this in the above plots.

Below is an example of an active load built with real parts being compared to LTspice's simplified "flagged load" model. It's a simple current mirror circuit with a reference current being generated by a voltage source and resistor. Notice how this specific active load's I-V curve tracks really well with the simplified model, until the voltage across it gets much too negative.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Unfortunately I can't understand the explanation given in the build in help, and neither do I understand your answer... what are "soft switch" and "hard switch" - are these mechanical switches like buttons? why are there "switch points" or why do I switch on or off the circuit at 0.25V and 0.5V? I think a much simplified answer that addresses "what it is" might be helpful. \$\endgroup\$
    – KMC
    Commented Jan 7, 2021 at 15:26
  • \$\begingroup\$ "hard-switch between the two curves"... do you mean the red trace transformed (switched) into the green trace? I don't get the terminology or abstraction. \$\endgroup\$
    – KMC
    Commented Jan 7, 2021 at 15:32
  • \$\begingroup\$ @KMC The simplified answer was already stated in the answer. I'll copy/paste it again: What this is saying is that when the voltage across the current source drops below 0.5V, then its I-V curve soft-switches from a line with zero-slope (constant current) into a line with positive-slope (resistor). \$\endgroup\$
    – Ste Kulov
    Commented Jan 7, 2021 at 17:37
  • \$\begingroup\$ @KMC No, the switching is referring to the two unique sections on the curve. Just focus on the red line for now. At 0.25V, the curve changes between a sloped-line and a flat-line and there's a corner there (hard-switches between the two slopes). This is a piece-wise-linear I-V curve, which you should already be familiar with. The only thing the built-in LTspice model does differently is it smooths this corner (soft-switches between the two slopes) to avoid convergence issues, and that's what the green line shows. \$\endgroup\$
    – Ste Kulov
    Commented Jan 7, 2021 at 17:37
  • \$\begingroup\$ @KMC If you're still confused, try this exercise. Create this schematic, which is a 2A active load, 2A current sink, and 0.125Ω resistor. Plot the current on each component and notice that the 2A active load is just a combination of the current sink and the resistor. It changes between the two at around 0.25V. This is similar to how a silicon diode changes between an open and closed circuit at around 0.7V. Same concept of piecewise-linear I-V functions. \$\endgroup\$
    – Ste Kulov
    Commented Jan 7, 2021 at 18:01

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