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I was looking for a good solution in order to use a bunch of components and read 0-10V/0-20mA and digital inputs using my Arduino Pro Mini (ATMEGA328P working at 3.3V.)

I've found online this schematic from SferaLabs, the reference board is Iono Arduino, here you can find the entire schematic, and following the interesting section:

Multi-mode-inputs

I find this schematic really interesting, it seems that, using a single op-amp, is able to manage: a digital input OR 0-10V analog input OR 0-20mA analog input (as reported at page 8 of the board user manual):

user-manual

Now, I need to know two things:

  • If I wire 3.3V at BAT54S cathode (red circle in the main photo) and the VLIM of the LM224D, will the circuit work without any issue?
  • Can anyone help me to understand how this non inverting op-amp was configured in order to work like that?
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  • \$\begingroup\$ You would need to adapt the gain of the opamp if it was designed to output an analog value 0-5V to suit new requirement 0-3.3V. Altrough I didn't check what is the original output voltage range. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Feb 15, 2021 at 19:53
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    \$\begingroup\$ The opamp is simply a voltage buffer, the opamp measures the voltage at its + input and then copies the same voltage to its output. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Feb 15, 2021 at 19:53
  • \$\begingroup\$ @MarkoBuršič, you can read (at page 6) "compatible with 5.0V and 3.3V operating voltage Arduino boards with 1.0 pinout" \$\endgroup\$
    – VirtApp
    Commented Feb 15, 2021 at 20:22

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Solving for V2: Vout=Vin * R2/(R1+R2)= Vin* 0.3299

So at 10V at V2 you get 3.3V output.

schematic

simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

Solving for I2:

Vout = I2*165

Vout = 20mA*165 = 3.3V

schematic

simulate this circuit

In order to use this circuit with 3.3V supply, you should use a rail to rail opamp in order to maximize the output range and then recalculate resistors, so that the output voltage would be in range of the max. output of opamp. For example, instead to have a voltage divider of 0.33 for V2, you use a divider of 0.3. At 10V input you get only 3V output, you loose that 0.3 voltage range of ADC.

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You can see, that LM224D can output only Vcc-1.5V, so not suitable for you, if you don't supply it with at least 5V.

EDIT:

If you will use the 3.3V supply, then also a 2.2k output limiting resistor is not needed.

EDIT2:

Recalculate resistors for 0-3V output voltage:

  1. \$R_{shunt}=\frac{3V}{20mA} = 150 \Omega\$, so the same R54, without/shorted R32(15 Ohm).
  2. From solving for V2. R2=47.15, R1=?

$$0.3= \frac{R_2}{R_1+R_2}$$

$$0.3\cdot(R_1+R_2)= R_2$$

$$0.3\cdot R_1+0.3\cdot R_2= R_2$$

$$0.3\cdot R_1= R_2\cdot (1-0.3)$$

$$ R_1= R_2\frac{0.7}{0.3}= R_2\cdot 2.333$$

$$ R_1= 110.01 k\Omega$$

$$ R_{50}= 110.01-2\cdot47= 16.01k\Omega \approx 16k\Omega$$

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  • \$\begingroup\$ So Marko, what op-amp you suggest to use? and which resistor values i have to use? please help me to figure out :) \$\endgroup\$
    – VirtApp
    Commented Feb 15, 2021 at 20:49
  • \$\begingroup\$ @VirtApp Try to google first: "low offset rail to rail quad op amp single supply". Then choose your candidates, the drift, temp. stability matters for the price. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Feb 15, 2021 at 20:58
  • \$\begingroup\$ Maybe something like a lmv324 may be a good choice? which resistor values i need to use? i'm little bit in difficult on how to recalculate the resistor... \$\endgroup\$
    – VirtApp
    Commented Feb 15, 2021 at 20:58
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    \$\begingroup\$ @VirtApp LMV324 is not LMV324A. You can leave the R36, also you can reserve a footprint for the capacitor from end to GND, it may be useful for filtering. You could look, possibly to remove R47 and R19. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Feb 19, 2021 at 6:22
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    \$\begingroup\$ No, just use it with 3.3 V. \$\endgroup\$
    – CL.
    Commented Feb 20, 2021 at 15:15

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