This is a sort of forensic electronics case, where a circuit board was fried and we are trying to understand how. Perhaps someone can help or at least be entertained by this question.

I sent a sort of synthesizer to be shown in an exhibition space. The synthesizer is composed of an all steel table of sorts, and an axoloti circuit board inside it.

The board is powered via a micro-USB port that is supposed to typically receive around 5 V, 2 A from any computer USB port or USB charger. This particular board has been powered in this manner, with a USB cable connected to a computer USB port, both at home during the building of the machine, and in the actual exhibition space, while inside of the steel chassis, right before being fried.

The steel chassis has openings for all Axoloti ports.

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The Axoloti is fixed to the chassis merely via the plastic protection of the jack inputs which can be screwed in an out.

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There shouldn't be any contact between the chassis and the board, except perhaps the micro-USB port itself.

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As mentioned, the board was plugged into a computer on site using a USB cable and was working without problems.

Additionally a stereo minijack connector and cable was connected to the board's stereo minijack output on one end and two speakers on the other end. Audio also worked without any audible interferences.

Finally, a third USB cable -initially disconnected- ran parallel and in close proximity to the sound cable, along a guiding string, and to an electric box on the ceiling, where a USB charger was connected to a terminal strip, itself connected directly to electric cables.

These are two images of the three cables on the synth side, and to the ceiling. From the electric box the audio cable divided to both sides and went to meet the speakers.

Here is a video of what I just described.

After disconnecting the USB cable that went to the computer USB port, and connecting the USB cable that went to the ceiling USB charger, the board started to emit strong static noise (from speakers) and a smell was perceived (as I've been told, I wasn't there).

After switching the cables again the board remained unresponsive.

After the incident the assembly team measured the output of the USB charger on the ceiling with a tester, and said the lecture was around 5 V, 2 A as expected.

How did the board fry then? We can only think of two options.

  1. Since the audio cable not only ran paralel and in close proximity to the electric cable but evem went through the electric box itself (220 V , this is Spain), the audio cable may have caught charge by induction (is this the term in English?) which transferred to the Axoloti board via the minijack output and was big enough to fry the board.

(here the board schematics)

An argument against this option may be that the audio cable was already in place, when the board was powered through the computer, and working without audible interference.

An addition to this option is that, as seen in the images and video, the connector of the audio cable is metallic, and may have been in contact with the steel chassis.

  1. Either the mini-USB port of the Axoloti board, or the USB cable plug itself, went into contact with the steel chassis. We fail to see how this could have led to the board being fried tho, as no other parts of the circuit board seemed to be in contact with the chassis.

As an addition to this option, both the micro USB port or USB cable plug AND the audio jack connectors may have been in contact with the steel chassis at the same time.

As a final plot twist, after changing the -apparently intact- USB cable (the one that went to the ceiling) with a similar one, they put an isolated Raspberry Pi board into the steel chassis, powered it with the new cable and plugged it into the same stereo minijack, and it did not fry.

The Arduino is playing a recording, and is serving as a temporary solution.

We do have a replacement Axoloti board, but as they don't seem to find the cause of the incident, we are reluctant to let them repeat the process with only having changed the cable, for fear of it being fried.

Any help very much appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

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    \$\begingroup\$ my guess is ESD induced latchup when connected to the power source. A ground and stray capacitance diagram would be helpful from all sources and ESD compliance testing of the "fried" chicken \$\endgroup\$ May 28, 2021 at 23:22
  • \$\begingroup\$ Sometimes devices break when you connect the power. Tantalum capacitors are infamous for this. \$\endgroup\$ May 29, 2021 at 1:46
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    \$\begingroup\$ The loudspeaker looks like it is powered. Does it have phantom power on its audio input? \$\endgroup\$
    – bobflux
    May 29, 2021 at 5:59
  • \$\begingroup\$ Was the computer grounded? Were the speakers grounded? Some are, some are not. Was any device that has a grounded plug connected to ungrounded mains socket? The USB charger most likely was an ungrounded 2-prong device? There are just so many things that can go wrong and connecting powered up ungrounded devices together can discharge a voltage difference between devices with high enough energy to break it. \$\endgroup\$
    – Justme
    May 29, 2021 at 7:03
  • \$\begingroup\$ +1 on bobflux, check for +48V phantom power. You place a lot of emphasis on cables in proximity of each other being a potential problem. For induced hum noise yes, for destroying your board no. \$\endgroup\$
    – winny
    May 29, 2021 at 9:23

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A guess: There's a substantial voltage difference between the ceiling electricity network and the outlets available on the floor. Any system which is connected to both systems will be electrocuted. That needs nothing more than they are taken from different phases of building's main 3-phase system.

Shouldn't power supplies be isolated? Yes, but for practical reasons they still often have big capacitors between the DC output and the mains AC input.

Practical reasons = Switch mode power supplies are forbidden to emit too much radio frequency noise to air and to AC supply lines. The capacitors belong to filtering circuits which try to suppress illegal radio noise emissions.

The capacitors have high enough impedance to prevent lethal electric shocks if a person happens to be a part of the circuit, but the current may well electrocute the circuits. I have seen it happen numerous times.

Using grounded mains AC connections only with absolute zero exceptions is a good way to avoid the problem assuming the devices are properly designed to utilize the grounding, the groundings in the outlets are functional and no "smartie" has removed groundings for example to reduce ground loops which collect noise to low cost unbalanced signal wirings.

But it happened just when a cable was disconnected? The cable could be the one which connected together the grounds of 2 systems. After removing it the leak from mains AC was connected to less robust parts of the circuits.

  • \$\begingroup\$ Thank you, there is something I don't understand or may have misunderstood. The board was first powered through its microusb port to a computer's usb on 'the floor', with no problem (we were flashing the board with a program). This was disconnected, then in the same micro-usb port they connected the usb cable that went to the usb charger on the ceiling. Connecting this cable caused the noise and smell, etc. There were no 'outlets' on the floor, unless you are refering to the board inputs. Thank you. \$\endgroup\$
    – Jaume Mal
    May 29, 2021 at 8:04
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    \$\begingroup\$ You should list all connections of the electrocuted device - to what and where that "what" was connected to. Contatct to concrete and metallic building structures should also be considered as connections. \$\endgroup\$
    – user136077
    May 29, 2021 at 8:12

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